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* Review Slava HV board mounting [[http://www.jlab.org/~vgr/CDC%2011-10-2009/]]
 
* Review Slava HV board mounting [[http://www.jlab.org/~vgr/CDC%2011-10-2009/]]
 
* Straw testing
 
* Straw testing
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* Polycarbonate machining
  
 
==New Action Items==
 
==New Action Items==
 
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* Tim to pursue getting 10,00 Hall B crimp pins from Medelec since they have not completed the Hall B order yet
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* Curtis to check effect of 200 micron hole in crimp pin on resolution (vs 100 micron)
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* Slava to update Plastic wire insert drawing to match Hall B crimp pin
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* Tim to send some crimp pins, al donuts and feedthrus to CMU to check. JLAB will hold on to remainder until CMU ready.
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* Slava to produce drawings for swiss cheese plate and threaded insert for final review
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* Gary to machine and thread polycarbonate plate to verify that this is the proper material
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* Tim to update straw spec and drawings and get out to Lamina for quote.
  
 
==Action Items/Decisions from Previous Meeting==
 
==Action Items/Decisions from Previous Meeting==
 
* Slava to layout new setup to attach one connector stud to al plate and attach HV board directly to connector. will relocate connectors and check clearances with 8mm bend rad in wire
 
* Slava to layout new setup to attach one connector stud to al plate and attach HV board directly to connector. will relocate connectors and check clearances with 8mm bend rad in wire
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**<font color=blue> Complted work. Layout clearance good</font>
 
* Tim to pursue Medelec 2 piece crimp pin quotes. Medelec said they could not make the one designed
 
* Tim to pursue Medelec 2 piece crimp pin quotes. Medelec said they could not make the one designed
** Medelec will not make any more copper crimp pins of any design unless the order had already been placed. Tim Investigated other manufacturers to no avail. Hole/length ratio too small
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**<font color=blue> Medelec will not make any more copper crimp pins of any design unless the order had already been placed. Tim Investigated other manufacturers to no avail. Hole/length ratio too small</font>
 
* Beni to complete rad tests of straws in the next couple of weeks and send straws back to CMU for test
 
* Beni to complete rad tests of straws in the next couple of weeks and send straws back to CMU for test
** straws back at CMU
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**<font color=blue>s traws back at CMU</font>
 
* Have endplates delivered to JLAB for spot check of hole coordinates. Tim to arrange with survey group
 
* Have endplates delivered to JLAB for spot check of hole coordinates. Tim to arrange with survey group
** Vendor to independently check with Faro arm. Do we still widh to bring these to JLAB?
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**<font color=blue> Vendor to independently check with Faro arm. Do we still widh to bring these to JLAB?</font>
 
* Fernando to look at stripping tools to reduce the need for large pcb on connector
 
* Fernando to look at stripping tools to reduce the need for large pcb on connector
 
**<font color=blue> Stripping tool located, inner pad 3mm, 2mm gap , HV outer pad 6mm. Total wdth of pcb 30.5mm, 8mm bend rad required for cable</font>
 
**<font color=blue> Stripping tool located, inner pad 3mm, 2mm gap , HV outer pad 6mm. Total wdth of pcb 30.5mm, 8mm bend rad required for cable</font>
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
# O-ring: The O-ring used on the prototype is a #103 BUNA-N Soft. The through-hole is 156 and the shoulder is a 9/32 into which the O-ring is forced.
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* All agreed to pursue Hall B straight crimp pins. 200 micron hole, 12mm long, 1.47mm OD
# Small modifications to connector/grounding assembly [[Image:CDC Connector.pdf]]
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* 3700 ea aluminum donuts and feedthru's received at JLAB
* Slava will layout Fernando's stud grounding option
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* Will pursue threaded insert to compress o-ring to wire for sealing
**<font color=blue> Opted for connector to al plate standoff stud design</font>
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* Lamina 300A alum on Mylar tubes passed radiation test. Will pursue procuring these straws.
* Gary to supply sketch of CMU grounding option
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* Decided to have endplates shipped to JLAB fist for spot check
**<font color=blue> see below</font>
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* Fernando will ship some new preamp cards to CMU in January
* Gary to check if he can still get conductive rubber boot used previously
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* Latest HV board connection layout accepted by all
* Slava to update layout of cable to crimp pin per discussion
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* Tim to see if cable restraint bushing can be made
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* What needs to be done on al plate to ensure electrical connection? all
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**<font color=blue> Decided on local cleaning and prep during assy</font>
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* Gary to get sample of polycarbonate to test
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==Ground HV Card Through Standoff==
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Attached is a rough sketch showing the proposed stand-off scheme. [[Image:Standoff.pdf| pdf file]]
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#) A 6/32 blind threaded hole is drilled in the endplate.
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#) A 6/32 set screw is screwed into the hole. We can use conducting epoxy to improve the connection if needed.
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#) A 1/4 inch electrical standoff with a 6/32 tapped hole is screwed onto the set screw. There are three possible variations on this for the end in contact with the endplate.
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##) There is room for the 1/4 inch, nothing specicial
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##) There is not quite enough room for the 1/4 inch due to the  heads of the feedthrus extending 1/10" above the surface of the plate. We can order a standard 1/4 standoff that has a diameter of 188 for the last .133 inches. This comes from McMaster-Carr.
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##) Or we can make in house modifications:
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###) we can (in house as needed) taper the end of the standof down to ~188 from 250 so it will fit,
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###) we can (in house) as needed remove some material from the head of the feed throughs so that the 1/4 in can reach the endplate.
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#) A .156 inch hole is drilled through the lucite plate.
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#) A 6/32 set screw goes through the lucite plate and screws into the standoff.
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#) Epoxy, or conducting epoxy in placed around the 6/32 set screw.
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#) A  1/4 inch electrical standoff with blind 6/32 holes is screwed
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#) The connector is attached to the standoff.
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==Mounting the HV card==
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We also would like to propose the standoffs that hold the HV card be on opposite sides of the card, rather than both on the same side. This gives less chance that the card will tilt during installation and removal.<br>
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@===      High-voltage board<br>
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O          Standoff/set screw of installation/removal.<br>
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                                                            O
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Latest revision as of 14:40, 20 November 2009

Meeting Time and Place

Friday November 20, 2009 at 10:30am At Jefferson Lab, the meeting will be held in room ARC 428

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Agenda

  • Discuss Crimp pin design and manufacture
  • Review spacer tube sealing
  • Review Slava HV board mounting [[1]]
  • Straw testing
  • Polycarbonate machining

New Action Items

  • Tim to pursue getting 10,00 Hall B crimp pins from Medelec since they have not completed the Hall B order yet
  • Curtis to check effect of 200 micron hole in crimp pin on resolution (vs 100 micron)
  • Slava to update Plastic wire insert drawing to match Hall B crimp pin
  • Tim to send some crimp pins, al donuts and feedthrus to CMU to check. JLAB will hold on to remainder until CMU ready.
  • Slava to produce drawings for swiss cheese plate and threaded insert for final review
  • Gary to machine and thread polycarbonate plate to verify that this is the proper material
  • Tim to update straw spec and drawings and get out to Lamina for quote.

Action Items/Decisions from Previous Meeting

  • Slava to layout new setup to attach one connector stud to al plate and attach HV board directly to connector. will relocate connectors and check clearances with 8mm bend rad in wire
    • Complted work. Layout clearance good
  • Tim to pursue Medelec 2 piece crimp pin quotes. Medelec said they could not make the one designed
    • Medelec will not make any more copper crimp pins of any design unless the order had already been placed. Tim Investigated other manufacturers to no avail. Hole/length ratio too small
  • Beni to complete rad tests of straws in the next couple of weeks and send straws back to CMU for test
    • s traws back at CMU
  • Have endplates delivered to JLAB for spot check of hole coordinates. Tim to arrange with survey group
    • Vendor to independently check with Faro arm. Do we still widh to bring these to JLAB?
  • Fernando to look at stripping tools to reduce the need for large pcb on connector
    • Stripping tool located, inner pad 3mm, 2mm gap , HV outer pad 6mm. Total wdth of pcb 30.5mm, 8mm bend rad required for cable

Notes

  • All agreed to pursue Hall B straight crimp pins. 200 micron hole, 12mm long, 1.47mm OD
  • 3700 ea aluminum donuts and feedthru's received at JLAB
  • Will pursue threaded insert to compress o-ring to wire for sealing
  • Lamina 300A alum on Mylar tubes passed radiation test. Will pursue procuring these straws.
  • Decided to have endplates shipped to JLAB fist for spot check
  • Fernando will ship some new preamp cards to CMU in January
  • Latest HV board connection layout accepted by all