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# Mini-DAQ for FDC tests [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/First_Tests_in_Hall-D] (Beni)
 
# Mini-DAQ for FDC tests [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/First_Tests_in_Hall-D] (Beni)
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- The raw data from the last survey is now available (attached above, all the numbers are in meters). At a first look the thickness of the packages are OK, +/- 0.3mm from the nominal, but this require more studies. The main question was if the prisms can be used to measure the z positions with a few hundred microns resolution, but these measurements are not enough to make a conclusion.  Still one can see that the z positions of the prisms at one package vary by up to 6mm but Bill says this is possible given the way the prisms are glued to the gussets. If one
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- The raw data from the last survey is now available (attached above, all the numbers are in meters). At a first look the thickness of the packages are OK, +/- 0.3mm from the nominal, but this require more studies. The main question was if the prisms can be used to measure the z positions with a few hundred microns resolution, but these measurements are not enough to make a conclusion.  Still one can see that the z positions of the prisms at one package vary by up to 6mm but Bill says this is possible given the way the prisms are glued to the gussets. Interestingly, the distances between the packages from the SMR and from the prism measurements are similar (up to few mm) for the package #1-#2 and #2-#3, but there's about 4cm difference for the distance between #3 and #4. Certainly all all this require careful analysis.
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- Important is that the prisms were survey from a big distance of 6-8 m, chosen by the survey people to have very similar angles w.r.t. prism surfaces. However we will not have that space between the FDC in the magnet and the FCAL in the current position. Bill will talk to the survey group to find if they have estimated the effect of distance to the targets.
  
 
- Once the mesh is installed Bill wants to make sure CDC will fit. A wooden disk can be used to check this or the CDC mock-up but it will need some work. He thinks at least initially the cables shouldn't be connected to the mesh very tightly so that we have the freedom to shape the mesh if it is not cylindrical.
 
- Once the mesh is installed Bill wants to make sure CDC will fit. A wooden disk can be used to check this or the CDC mock-up but it will need some work. He thinks at least initially the cables shouldn't be connected to the mesh very tightly so that we have the freedom to shape the mesh if it is not cylindrical.
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== Mini-DAQ ==
 
== Mini-DAQ ==
 
- Beni has prepared a mini-DAQ system to test the cable connections while cabling. The system is now on "wilma" computer and has been tested there. See the link above for the full description of the system, as prepared by Beni. The system reads one module fADC125 and plots the pedestals; the widths will indicate proper connections. For the F1TDC the system sends pulses to the front of the pre-amp and gets back the timings. It's not a problem to install run the system from the new computer that will be on the platform "joebesser". As for the LV and HV system, Hovanes will be working on them; the systems are supposed to be ready but have not been tested with the real modules. In any case we can use Beni's LV system at the beginning to test the LV connections.
 
 
== Full electronics test analyses ==
 
 
- Lubomir estimated of the wire resolution (see Entry 122 in the Elog linked above) using external tracking (IU chambers). Previous attempt to do this with package #3 (partial electronics) failed. Lubomir and Beni fixed a bug in the IU chamber configuration and the position resolution was improved from ~6mm to ~2.7mm. We use two cells with parallel wires, #1 and #4, take the difference between the track angles reconstructed from IU chambers on a 154cm base and the two cells, then multiply it by the distance between the cells (6.45 cm). This is a measure of the resolution of the two cells. The first plot shows the resolution of one cell (~200 microns in 1-4 mm distance-to-the-wire region), but it has to be corrected by the IU chamber contribution estimated to be ~110 microns (with big uncertainty!).
 
 
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Revision as of 17:05, 21 November 2013

November 21, 2013 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Installation [1] (all)
  2. Engineering (Bill)
  3. Electronics (Chris, Nick)
  4. Mini-DAQ for FDC tests [3] (Beni)
  5. Other

Minutes

Participants: Bill, Dave, Nick, Chris, Simon, Vlad, Beni, Elton, Hovanes (for the LV control discussions) and Lubomir.

Installation

- Dave: right now techs are working on the mesh, it will be finished by the end of the day or tomorrow. Tom prefers only after that the FDC to be moved on the platform (today or tomorrow morning). In the mean time Tom and Dave tested the cooling system for leakage with He at 10-15 psi using the big testing unit used for the magnet. A leak was found in the connection of one of the manifolds and Casey fixed it. Dave wade the houses and the fittings needed to connect the FDC to the chiller once it is on the platform. As of yesterday we have also chilled water and the connections to the chiller are ready.

- We discussed details how to connect/bundle/route the LV cables. The cables will be laying on the floor all over the platform for some time and we want to make sure the cables and especially the connectors are at a safe place. Most likely we have to run the individual cables around the pair spectrometer magnet (these are 18m long cables) and then bundle them in groups of 8 or 9. The exact procedure will be clear once we start cabling. We should have then the bundles routed so that they don't interfere with the signal cables. We want to use regular cable ties at least close to the connectors (for strain relief), but then along the mesh we cab use Velcro ties (Nick has now narrower ties with bigger friction).

Engineering

- The raw data from the last survey is now available (attached above, all the numbers are in meters). At a first look the thickness of the packages are OK, +/- 0.3mm from the nominal, but this require more studies. The main question was if the prisms can be used to measure the z positions with a few hundred microns resolution, but these measurements are not enough to make a conclusion. Still one can see that the z positions of the prisms at one package vary by up to 6mm but Bill says this is possible given the way the prisms are glued to the gussets. Interestingly, the distances between the packages from the SMR and from the prism measurements are similar (up to few mm) for the package #1-#2 and #2-#3, but there's about 4cm difference for the distance between #3 and #4. Certainly all all this require careful analysis.

- Important is that the prisms were survey from a big distance of 6-8 m, chosen by the survey people to have very similar angles w.r.t. prism surfaces. However we will not have that space between the FDC in the magnet and the FCAL in the current position. Bill will talk to the survey group to find if they have estimated the effect of distance to the targets.

- Once the mesh is installed Bill wants to make sure CDC will fit. A wooden disk can be used to check this or the CDC mock-up but it will need some work. He thinks at least initially the cables shouldn't be connected to the mesh very tightly so that we have the freedom to shape the mesh if it is not cylindrical.

Electronics

Mini-DAQ