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Curtis agreed to convert [http://argus.phys.uregina.ca/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=2031 document 2031] into a Wiki page. The page is now wvaiable as[[Planning for The Next GlueX Data Challenge]].
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==Announcements==
  
grid ftp tools, directly access to tape from off-site
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Mark reported that the Computer Center was given a heads-up that we will start working on the data challenge. Batch jobs will start to appear on the JLab farm.
srm
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We will have a tape volume set that can be recycled.
  
grid and jlab
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==Scope of this Challenge==
  
Matt: physics huge sample of phythia sufficient
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* We agreed to continue on the course of using Curtis's document as a repository of our ideas about the data challenge (DC). Curtis agreed to convert [http://argus.phys.uregina.ca/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=2031 document 2031] into a Wiki page. The page is now available as[[Planning for The Next GlueX Data Challenge]].
scale of physics signal small, not a DC issue
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* Curtis reminded us that we need a robust storage resource manager (SRM) for the DC.
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* Grid and JLab: Mark asked about whether we want to pursue large-scale production on the Grid, at JLab, or both. We decided to pursue both.
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* Matt thought that a huge sample of Pythia data would be sufficient to address main goals of the DC. Physics signals are of a smaller scale and can be generated in a more ad hoc mannger.
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* We talked about December or January as a tentative time frame for doing the first DC. In the future we will have to set-up more formal milestones.
  
december january time frame
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==Mini-Data Challenges==
 
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set-up milestones
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==Action Items==
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# Make a list of milestones.

Revision as of 13:48, 17 July 2012

Meeting Time and Place

The meeting will be on Monday July 16, 2012 at 1:30pm EDT. For those people at Jefferson Lab, the meeting will be in room F326.

Meeting Connections

To connect from the outside:

1.) ESNET:

   Call ESNET Number 8542553 (this is the preferred connection method).

2.) Phone: (should not be needed)

  +1-866-740-1260 : US and Canada
  +1-303-248-0285 : International
    then use participant code: 3421244# (the # is needed when using the phone)
  or www.readytalk.com
   then type access code 3421244 into "join a meeting" (you need java plugin)

3.) EVO:

   A conference has been booked under "GlueX" from 1:00pm until 3:30pm (EST).
  • To phone into an EVO meeting, from the U.S. call (626) 395-2112 and then enter the EVO meeting code, 13 9993. Instructions for the Phone Bridge to EVO.
  • Skype Bridge to EVO

Agenda

  1. announcements
    1. Computer Center has been warned: jobs, tapes
  2. discussion of agenda for this meeting
    1. Mark's list of topics
  3. review of minutes from previous offline meeting
  4. scope of this challenge
    1. document of scope: Curtis's document, with on-going revision
    2. time-line
    3. grid vs. JLab
  5. mini-data challenges?
    1. appropriate tools: WMS? Others?
    2. example of a minimal framework for job management: Mark
  6. analysis system design plan
    1. ideas for analysis system: Paul M.
  7. future challenges
  8. organization
    1. meeting time confirmation (or change)
    2. subsequent meetings open to all interested collaborators?
  9. finalization of REST format: record size and performance numbers
  10. gridmake database entry

Attendance

Minutes

Present:

  • CMU: Paul Mattione, Curtis Meyer
  • IU: Matt Shepherd
  • JLab: Eugene Chudakov, Mark Ito, David Lawrence
  • UConn: Richard Jones

Announcements

Mark reported that the Computer Center was given a heads-up that we will start working on the data challenge. Batch jobs will start to appear on the JLab farm. We will have a tape volume set that can be recycled.

Scope of this Challenge

  • We agreed to continue on the course of using Curtis's document as a repository of our ideas about the data challenge (DC). Curtis agreed to convert document 2031 into a Wiki page. The page is now available asPlanning for The Next GlueX Data Challenge.
  • Curtis reminded us that we need a robust storage resource manager (SRM) for the DC.
  • Grid and JLab: Mark asked about whether we want to pursue large-scale production on the Grid, at JLab, or both. We decided to pursue both.
  • Matt thought that a huge sample of Pythia data would be sufficient to address main goals of the DC. Physics signals are of a smaller scale and can be generated in a more ad hoc mannger.
  • We talked about December or January as a tentative time frame for doing the first DC. In the future we will have to set-up more formal milestones.

Mini-Data Challenges

revised rest format

gridmake

consensus on rest format dcth to dttb big cost associated, 30 hz re-swim a track 1.8 freeze on that

Action Items

  1. Make a list of milestones.