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*'''Preparation of parts for FCAL2 modules''' -- Sasha | *'''Preparation of parts for FCAL2 modules''' -- Sasha | ||
** Received 15 CRYTUR crystals during this week [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/CRYTUR] | ** Received 15 CRYTUR crystals during this week [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/CRYTUR] | ||
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** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_tasks_and_manpower Projects for summer students] | ** [https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_tasks_and_manpower Projects for summer students] | ||
* '''Light Monitoring System''' -- Arshak | * '''Light Monitoring System''' -- Arshak | ||
+ | **BEAM tests for checking cross talks | ||
+ | ***Prototype pic at PS test stand https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/20221207_171308.jpg | ||
+ | ***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/20221207_171325.jpg | ||
+ | ** Very 1st Results | ||
+ | ***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/3_by_3.gif | ||
+ | ***https://userweb.jlab.org/~aasatury/Fcal_LMS/beam_test/4_5_6.gif | ||
* '''Simulations/Analysis''' | * '''Simulations/Analysis''' | ||
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+ | =Minutes= | ||
+ | Attendees: Sasha, Arshak, Phil, Igal, Malte, Jane, Jon, Liping, Azizah, Bill, Zisis, Axel, S.T. | ||
+ | * Arshak presented progress on measuring cross talk due to LMS plexiglas plate using 3x3 setup in PS test stand in hall | ||
+ | ** PbW04 module in center, dummies with just ESR wrapping on left and right, long light guides on top and bottom | ||
+ | ** Front face blocked on one side of center, open on other side | ||
+ | ** Light guides still present for dummies | ||
+ | ** Secondary lepton beam hits ~center of crystal, in coincidence with PS tile | ||
+ | *** Could be centered a little better | ||
+ | ** Almost the same amplitudes of signals on left and right tubes = almost no cross talk | ||
+ | *** Small asymmetry is seen -- suggest swapping which face is closed | ||
+ | *** Could do test without light guides on left and right | ||
+ | *** Look at energy distribution of possible cross talk? | ||
+ | ** Redo test with a true 3x3 prototype of crystals? | ||
+ | * COMCAL will be disassembled next year -- leave a 5x5 array for tests with new PMT dividers? | ||
+ | * Still continuing to receive Crytur crystals, expect more by end of year, and expect new batch in May of next year | ||
+ | * Wrapping of existing crystals continues -- 30 more to go | ||
+ | * Mindy from detector support group soldering wires to PMT sockets | ||
+ | * Inventory of parts needed for module fabrication looks good | ||
+ | * Grand total fabricated modules = 1371, hope for 1400 by end of year | ||
+ | * Bench tests for PMT dividers (two versions: bypassed amplifier and 3x amplifier) ongoing | ||
+ | ** Concern: NPS experience with higher gain amplifier (20x vs 3x) = large noise level, 200 MHz frequency -- do we need to be concerned? Probably not due to smaller gain amplifier | ||
+ | ** Noise tests inside FCAL dark room | ||
+ | *** With bypassed amplifier: FCAL HV off: low noise; FCAL HV on: some noise spikes | ||
+ | *** With 3x amplifer: see CANBUS activity and higher amplitude noise level with FCAL HV off, increases with FCAL HV on | ||
+ | **** Still looks like ~3 mV threshold should be possible | ||
+ | *** Bring 3x3 crystal prototype into dark room? | ||
+ | *** Use shielded cables for CANBUS? | ||
+ | * Need to give green light to Fernando regarding PMT divider order soon | ||
+ | * Patch panel design: separation of HV and LV | ||
+ | * List of summer students is growing: | ||
+ | ** 2 from Lamar, 2 from URegina, up to 4 from UNCW, 1 from GWU | ||
+ | ** Lab will support students at some level | ||
+ | ** Sasha anticipates needing 11 students for 3 months |
Latest revision as of 10:24, 16 December 2022
Meeting time and location:
- 9:30 am EST (JLab time) remote only
- Zoom meeting ID: 161 050 9142 Passcode: 004965
Agenda
- Preparation of parts for FCAL2 modules -- Sasha
- Received 15 CRYTUR crystals during this week [1]
- Expect to receive 10 more CRYTUR crystals from physics division (22-C0275) by the end of this year
- Wrapped CRYTUR crystals: 795
- 9 crystals wrapped during last week
- Available for wrapping: 30 crystals
- Mindy (DSG group) continues wrapping crystals
- Mindy will start soldering wires to sockets (short meeting with Chris and Mindy)
- List of available parts
- Received 15 CRYTUR crystals during this week [1]
- Module fabrication -- Sasha
- Status of fabrication
- Fabricated modules: Total 1371 (9 modules fabricated since last week)
- Testing of PMT dividers -- Sasha / Arshak
- Installation of the FCAL2 detector -- Sasha / Arshak
- Detector installation page
- Updates from the meetings with Tim's group [2]
- Detector cabling and patch panels for the FCAL insert
- Manpower and division of tasks
- Projects for summer students
- Light Monitoring System -- Arshak
- BEAM tests for checking cross talks
- Very 1st Results
- Simulations/Analysis
Minutes
Attendees: Sasha, Arshak, Phil, Igal, Malte, Jane, Jon, Liping, Azizah, Bill, Zisis, Axel, S.T.
- Arshak presented progress on measuring cross talk due to LMS plexiglas plate using 3x3 setup in PS test stand in hall
- PbW04 module in center, dummies with just ESR wrapping on left and right, long light guides on top and bottom
- Front face blocked on one side of center, open on other side
- Light guides still present for dummies
- Secondary lepton beam hits ~center of crystal, in coincidence with PS tile
- Could be centered a little better
- Almost the same amplitudes of signals on left and right tubes = almost no cross talk
- Small asymmetry is seen -- suggest swapping which face is closed
- Could do test without light guides on left and right
- Look at energy distribution of possible cross talk?
- Redo test with a true 3x3 prototype of crystals?
- COMCAL will be disassembled next year -- leave a 5x5 array for tests with new PMT dividers?
- Still continuing to receive Crytur crystals, expect more by end of year, and expect new batch in May of next year
- Wrapping of existing crystals continues -- 30 more to go
- Mindy from detector support group soldering wires to PMT sockets
- Inventory of parts needed for module fabrication looks good
- Grand total fabricated modules = 1371, hope for 1400 by end of year
- Bench tests for PMT dividers (two versions: bypassed amplifier and 3x amplifier) ongoing
- Concern: NPS experience with higher gain amplifier (20x vs 3x) = large noise level, 200 MHz frequency -- do we need to be concerned? Probably not due to smaller gain amplifier
- Noise tests inside FCAL dark room
- With bypassed amplifier: FCAL HV off: low noise; FCAL HV on: some noise spikes
- With 3x amplifer: see CANBUS activity and higher amplitude noise level with FCAL HV off, increases with FCAL HV on
- Still looks like ~3 mV threshold should be possible
- Bring 3x3 crystal prototype into dark room?
- Use shielded cables for CANBUS?
- Need to give green light to Fernando regarding PMT divider order soon
- Patch panel design: separation of HV and LV
- List of summer students is growing:
- 2 from Lamar, 2 from URegina, up to 4 from UNCW, 1 from GWU
- Lab will support students at some level
- Sasha anticipates needing 11 students for 3 months