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# CDC update (Mike, Simon, Beni)
 
# CDC update (Mike, Simon, Beni)
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#* Test1: current setup
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#* Test2: + grounding cable btw. ring and spade connector (50 ohm)
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#* Test3: same as Test2 but replace 50 Ohm with short
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#* Test4: + grounding cable btw. ring and standoff
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#* Test5: like test4 with additional cable to spade connector (0 ohm)
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#* Test8: like test 3 but connect standoff between to neighbouring cards
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#* Test9: like test 4 but connect standoff between to neighbouring cards
 
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! Connector !! Test1 width !! Test2 width !! Test3 width !! Test4 width !! Test8/9 width
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! Connector !! Test1 width !! Test2 width !! Test3 width !! Test4/5 width !! Test8/9 width
 
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| F2 || 16.9 || 17.0 || 17.0 || <span style="color:red">17.6 </span> || <span style="color:red">16.3</span>  
 
| F2 || 16.9 || 17.0 || 17.0 || <span style="color:red">17.6 </span> || <span style="color:red">16.3</span>  
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| F8 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.7
 
| F8 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.6 || 15.7
 
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** [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3347442 Garfield drift time calculations for various wire offsets]
 
# FDC update (Lubomir, Luke)
 
# FDC update (Lubomir, Luke)
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#* MC with Garfield: [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/avalanche_MC.pdf],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/qe_cont.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/qe_graph.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/qion_graph.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/radius_mc.pdf],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/garfield/z_mc.pdf]
 
# Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
 
# Engineering
 
# Engineering
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#* gas [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/CO2_common_gas2.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/CO2_common_gas2f.pdf]
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
  
Participants: Curtis, Mike (CMU), Eugene, Luke, Beni, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, and Lubomir (JLab).
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Participants: Curtis, Naomi, Mike (CMU), Fernando, Eugene, Luke, Beni, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Sergey and Lubomir (JLab).
  
 
== CDC update ==
 
== CDC update ==
  
- Beni: grounding with a thick cable of the HVBs doesn't change anything in the noise: a typical noise event is shown above. Chris and Nick tried both connecting through 50 Ohms or without 50 Ohms (by removing it on some of the boards). Still the idea to be tested is to connect the grounds on many cards together.
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- Simon studied the effect of the wire offset on the drift time using Garfield - see the logbook entry above. An offset of 1mm will make a factor of two difference in the drift time from the two extreme distances. In a good approximation the time-to-distance relation is symmetric w.r.t. wire position.
  
- Nick: One HV channel trips. For now Nick checked that it doesn't come from the CAEN, or HV cable. Next check is to swap the HVB cards.
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- Discussion about what might be the cause for such offsets: sagging of the wires not likely, possibly deformation of the tubes. Naomi described the gluing process - the straws were strapped during curing then released on the next day. All the tubes were checked for flatness. Everybody agrees, we need more cosmic data to study the z,phi dependence of the deformations. Simon will look also in the beam data.
  
== FDC update ==
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- One CDC wire (on D6 connector) broke. According to Beni we lost HV on that wire at 4:26am on July 28th, that could be the time it broke. Naomi: about 10 wires broke in the first several weeks after their installation and were replaced.
  
- Lubomir showed cathode resolution as a function of the charge (first plot). Normally, it gets better at higher charges. This is the case for the resolution in x (wire-reconstruction resolution) which changes from 300 down to 220 microns. The resolution in y is almost constant with the charge. This indicates, there's a contribution to it at a level of <180 microns. Part of it may come from the tracking, but significant part is coming also from another source. Lat two plots show the cathode resolution (residuals with an offset for better colors). One clearly see the different foils on the cathodes. Also one can see the channel-by-channel gain calibration (done by Vlad) may help to improve the resolution.
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- Nick: separated the broken wire from the HV. 10 channels from HV sector 5 tripped recently.   
 
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- Garfield simulations showed that screening from the wire creates the asymmetry in the signals induced on the two cathodes, depending on the side w.r.t. the wire at which the avalanche is created. This is demonstrated in the plots above.
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- Spare package: we took data with a random (pulser) trigger with the standard DAQ prepared by Sergey. We see iron source signal an every 200 events, still good enough to have some statistics now over much bigger area. After taking some data we changed the gas from 60/40 to 40/60 Ar/CO2.
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- Beni and Nick investigated different grounding configurations - see table above. Connecting the standoffs between two cards reduced the noise by about 4%. The hope is that connecting more cards will further reduce the noise. Fernando: need to consider the resolution/efficiency improvement since this is a lot of work.
  
== Engineering ==
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== FDC update ==
  
- When we decided to connect the CDC and FDC mixing tanks, wrong connection was used resulting in filling the FDC only with Ar and putting all of the CO2 to the CDC. Dave fixed that and now the two chambers are approaching slowly 50/50. All this was checked with the CO2 sensor - see the plot.
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- Lubomir showed results with microscopic, MC type, Garfield simulations of the avalanche. Last two plots show distributions of the avalanche electrons - as function of distance to the wire (on average very close to the wire), and position along the wire (only ~6 micron spread). The asymmetry in the signals on the two cathodes can be predicted by the microscopic simulations at least qualitatively. The results depend on the exact electronics response function and the ion contribution. The asymmetry in the cathode signals comes from  the asymmetry in the weighting field at the two sides of the wire, demonstrated in the other plots above.  
  
- Dave is working on the interlock that shuts off the MFCs at the input of the FDC and CDC in case of pressure problems. For now, after such event it can be cleared only manually.
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== Engineering ==
  
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- Finally we have about 50/50 gas mixture in both detectors - see the CO2 sensor results attached above. The measurements were done by switching between FDC (lower CO2) and CDC (higher CO2 percentage).

Latest revision as of 09:39, 10 August 2015

August 6, 2015 Drift Chamber meeting

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Agenda

  1. CDC update (Mike, Simon, Beni)
    • Test1: current setup
    • Test2: + grounding cable btw. ring and spade connector (50 ohm)
    • Test3: same as Test2 but replace 50 Ohm with short
    • Test4: + grounding cable btw. ring and standoff
    • Test5: like test4 with additional cable to spade connector (0 ohm)
    • Test8: like test 3 but connect standoff between to neighbouring cards
    • Test9: like test 4 but connect standoff between to neighbouring cards
Connector Test1 width Test2 width Test3 width Test4/5 width Test8/9 width
F2 16.9 17.0 17.0 17.6 16.3
F3 15.6 15.7 15.7 15.6 15.6
F7 15.5 15.6 15.6 15.7 15.8
F8 15.6 15.6 15.6 15.6 15.7
  1. FDC update (Lubomir, Luke)
  2. Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
  3. Engineering
  4. Other

Minutes

Participants: Curtis, Naomi, Mike (CMU), Fernando, Eugene, Luke, Beni, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Sergey and Lubomir (JLab).

CDC update

- Simon studied the effect of the wire offset on the drift time using Garfield - see the logbook entry above. An offset of 1mm will make a factor of two difference in the drift time from the two extreme distances. In a good approximation the time-to-distance relation is symmetric w.r.t. wire position.

- Discussion about what might be the cause for such offsets: sagging of the wires not likely, possibly deformation of the tubes. Naomi described the gluing process - the straws were strapped during curing then released on the next day. All the tubes were checked for flatness. Everybody agrees, we need more cosmic data to study the z,phi dependence of the deformations. Simon will look also in the beam data.

- One CDC wire (on D6 connector) broke. According to Beni we lost HV on that wire at 4:26am on July 28th, that could be the time it broke. Naomi: about 10 wires broke in the first several weeks after their installation and were replaced.

- Nick: separated the broken wire from the HV. 10 channels from HV sector 5 tripped recently.

- Beni and Nick investigated different grounding configurations - see table above. Connecting the standoffs between two cards reduced the noise by about 4%. The hope is that connecting more cards will further reduce the noise. Fernando: need to consider the resolution/efficiency improvement since this is a lot of work.

FDC update

- Lubomir showed results with microscopic, MC type, Garfield simulations of the avalanche. Last two plots show distributions of the avalanche electrons - as function of distance to the wire (on average very close to the wire), and position along the wire (only ~6 micron spread). The asymmetry in the signals on the two cathodes can be predicted by the microscopic simulations at least qualitatively. The results depend on the exact electronics response function and the ion contribution. The asymmetry in the cathode signals comes from the asymmetry in the weighting field at the two sides of the wire, demonstrated in the other plots above.

Engineering

- Finally we have about 50/50 gas mixture in both detectors - see the CO2 sensor results attached above. The measurements were done by switching between FDC (lower CO2) and CDC (higher CO2 percentage).