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# Chamber testing at EEL126 (cell#2) (Beni)
 
# Chamber testing at EEL126 (cell#2) (Beni)
 
#* Results with new gas mixture: [http://www.jlab.org/htbin/PHYSICS/halld/enote112.pl?nb=notebook&action=view&page=573]
 
#* Results with new gas mixture: [http://www.jlab.org/htbin/PHYSICS/halld/enote112.pl?nb=notebook&action=view&page=573]
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# Other: [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/movies/FDC_1_1.mov how to assemble a package]
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= Minutes =
 
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Participants: Bill, Dave, Beni, Simon, and Lubomir. We covered important problems and at the same time we were missing people that could help with the discussions and decisions.  
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Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Beni, Chris, Simon, and Lubomir.  
  
 
== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
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- Dave: Working now on the second cathode for cell#6. Another two cathodes are needed (type 1 and 2) to finish the cathodes for the first production package. There was a problem with the cutter; the springs will be replaced. The wire plane #5 is ready, yesterday we did the deadening. Right after the deadening a wire sample was made using the same chemical. The stringing stopped because of problems with the HV caps on the next wire frame #6.  
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- Dave: yesterday finished with stringing and taping wire frame #6, today did the position measurements and by the end of the day the wires will be glued. The cutter is now again operational and the techs will continue with cutting the foils for the cathode set #7; working also on the flaps for the cathode type 2 from set #6.  
  
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- Beginning with the wire frame #4, we started testing the HV caps before stringing. It requires some conditioning but few days were enough to test wire frame #5. Now we are having problems with wire frame #6. We identified so far 8 caps that need to be replaced. After the meeting we continued with the tests and we found another 4, so 12 in total. Anatoly, who removed the caps, mentioned that on 5 of these there were solder balls below the caps somewhere between the pads (see pictures linked above). The balls are actually flat (like coins). Therefore we suspect that they were there before the caps were un-soldered by Anatoly. If this is the case then we need to consider new procedures for cleaning/testing/replacing the caps on the boards before the lamination.
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- HV cap problem (see pictures linked above). Everybody was surprised by the size and the abundance of the solder balls: 1-2mm (compared to the gap of 4.5mm between the pads) under more than 50% of the caps. Based on this observation, a decision was made on Monday to re-solder all the capacitors on the newly built wire planes. The above statistics applies for the two wire frames that were re-soldered by Anatoly so far. The leakage current after re-soldering went down to several nA for the whole frame. Not all the boards are like these: when we started testing the capacitors a month ago, Anatoly re-soldered the capacitors on another board, but we didn't see such solder balls there.  
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After some discussions we agreed that it is worth informing the company. Chris will take care of the communications with them. Eugene: probably it's not worth pursuing this problem legally, but suggested to consult with the procurement.
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- We will spend some time tomorrow preparing for the hurricane. The main problem we expect is the lack of electricity. Therefore, no gluing will be done tomorrow. Bill suggested to cover all the frames that are outside with vacuum bagging material.  
  
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
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- Bill showed pictures (linked above) of the deadened area of one of the samples made by the W&M microscope. The surfaces, including the transition areas, look well polished and free of any sharp edges. The thicknesses along the wire and also for the different wires are very similar of about 66-68 microns, except at the very end of the deadened area where it is ~57 microns. Bill will look also at the last wire sample.  
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- Bill wrote the procedure for the package assembly (linked), so far for two cells, and will continue working on it. Three types of cooling brackets will be attached to the pre-amps and that's why he suggested marking the corresponding daughter cards with different colors.  
  
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- Do we need to cut the gusset ring? As estimated by Eugene in case of magnet trip without the cut we may have up to ~7mV e.m.f. That means in the ring (~10^-3 Ohms) we will have 7A current and the power will by ~50 mWatt. Nobody from the participants of the meeting was aware of any problem this power can cause. At the same time cutting the rings introduces some issues: flatness problems, dust from the fiber glass/carbon.
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- Bill showed pictures (linked) made by Olga from the sample done after the last wire deadening. In the transition region the axises of the thin and thick part of the wire do not coincide which is strange, but other than that the diameters and the surface smoothness are OK.
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- Gusset ring cut: Eugene explained that the main problem with the high currents (estimated as 7A in case of normal magnet quenching) on the gusset rings is the force that can reach several pounds directed mostly radially, but especially for the last package may have also z-component. Even if these forces are not so big it is worth cutting the rings because: the quench could be faster (it could damage the magnet as well but we can save the FDC at least); also these forces may change the positioning of the FDC which will require new calibrations.
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
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- Chris (not at the meeting) is testing the daughter boards and out ~200 he found only several problems mostly on the connectors, that were easily fixed.  
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- Chris finished testing the daughter boards (~500 in total), found 7 with problems and fixed most of them but two most likely will be unusable.  
 
   
 
   
 
== Chamber testing at 126 (cell #2)  ==
 
== Chamber testing at 126 (cell #2)  ==
  
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- On the HV sector #4 we found that there is ~2 MOhm between the field and sense wires. There's no connection from both field and sense wires to ground which indicates most likely there's no broken wire. To further investigate the problem we will apply the same potential to both field and sense wires. This was done already and the HV was high enough to see signals with an iron source.
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- Beni showed results (page 573 from the FDC logbook) with the new gas mixture (pre-mixed bottle 89.8/10.2 Ar/CO2) and now the drift time spectrum looks much flatter than before (when using 99.9/11.1 ccpm mixture from two bottles). Still the spectrum is not as flat as it was with the prototype, most likely because the HV is not high enough.  
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- Beni made measurements (page 574, 575) with the same HV (+1975V) applied on both field and sense wires; this is to study the HV sector 4 on which we would not apply standard HV configuration. On some of the wires the efficiency is lower but it is unlikely that we have broken wires there.
  
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- Beni was doing tests with HV sectors 1,2,3 using external tracking. The chamber trips once per one or two days. Beni studied the deadened area by looking at the chamber efficiency. The plot (page 572) shows the track position on the FDC as reconstructed from the IU chambers if there was a signal from the FDC wires: 24 channels on one side in the middle of the chamber. One can clearly see the deadened area also as a projection on one wire. The drift time spectrum is still a concern (bottom picture) therefore Beni decided to switch to a premixed bottle 89.7/10.3 Ar/CO2.
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== Other ==
  
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A movie is linked above, that shows how fast we should produce a package.

Latest revision as of 16:42, 25 August 2011

August 25, 2011 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production Construction Tracking (Dave)
  2. Engineering (Bill)
  3. Electronics update (Chris)
  4. Chamber testing at EEL126 (cell#2) (Beni)
    • Results with new gas mixture: [6]
  5. Other: how to assemble a package

Minutes

Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Beni, Chris, Simon, and Lubomir.

Production

- Dave: yesterday finished with stringing and taping wire frame #6, today did the position measurements and by the end of the day the wires will be glued. The cutter is now again operational and the techs will continue with cutting the foils for the cathode set #7; working also on the flaps for the cathode type 2 from set #6.

- HV cap problem (see pictures linked above). Everybody was surprised by the size and the abundance of the solder balls: 1-2mm (compared to the gap of 4.5mm between the pads) under more than 50% of the caps. Based on this observation, a decision was made on Monday to re-solder all the capacitors on the newly built wire planes. The above statistics applies for the two wire frames that were re-soldered by Anatoly so far. The leakage current after re-soldering went down to several nA for the whole frame. Not all the boards are like these: when we started testing the capacitors a month ago, Anatoly re-soldered the capacitors on another board, but we didn't see such solder balls there. After some discussions we agreed that it is worth informing the company. Chris will take care of the communications with them. Eugene: probably it's not worth pursuing this problem legally, but suggested to consult with the procurement.

- We will spend some time tomorrow preparing for the hurricane. The main problem we expect is the lack of electricity. Therefore, no gluing will be done tomorrow. Bill suggested to cover all the frames that are outside with vacuum bagging material.

Engineering

- Bill wrote the procedure for the package assembly (linked), so far for two cells, and will continue working on it. Three types of cooling brackets will be attached to the pre-amps and that's why he suggested marking the corresponding daughter cards with different colors.

- Bill showed pictures (linked) made by Olga from the sample done after the last wire deadening. In the transition region the axises of the thin and thick part of the wire do not coincide which is strange, but other than that the diameters and the surface smoothness are OK.

- Gusset ring cut: Eugene explained that the main problem with the high currents (estimated as 7A in case of normal magnet quenching) on the gusset rings is the force that can reach several pounds directed mostly radially, but especially for the last package may have also z-component. Even if these forces are not so big it is worth cutting the rings because: the quench could be faster (it could damage the magnet as well but we can save the FDC at least); also these forces may change the positioning of the FDC which will require new calibrations.

Electronics

- Chris finished testing the daughter boards (~500 in total), found 7 with problems and fixed most of them but two most likely will be unusable.

Chamber testing at 126 (cell #2)

- Beni showed results (page 573 from the FDC logbook) with the new gas mixture (pre-mixed bottle 89.8/10.2 Ar/CO2) and now the drift time spectrum looks much flatter than before (when using 99.9/11.1 ccpm mixture from two bottles). Still the spectrum is not as flat as it was with the prototype, most likely because the HV is not high enough.

- Beni made measurements (page 574, 575) with the same HV (+1975V) applied on both field and sense wires; this is to study the HV sector 4 on which we would not apply standard HV configuration. On some of the wires the efficiency is lower but it is unlikely that we have broken wires there.

Other

A movie is linked above, that shows how fast we should produce a package.

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