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= Agenda =
 
= Agenda =
  
# Production [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/production/FDC_Construction_Tracking_August_11_2011.xlsx Construction Tracking] (Dave)
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# Production [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/production/FDC_Construction_Tracking_August_18_2011.xlsx Construction Tracking] (Dave)
 
#* Status
 
#* Status
#* Other: wire deadening, HV cap testing
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#* HV cap problem: [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295817429522.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295817479405.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295823448624.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295823470741.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295823479007.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/1295823508786.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/cap_72_W008_1.bmp], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/cap_72_W008_3.bmp]
 
# Engineering (Bill)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
#* Update
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#* Wire deadening: [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/edge-Cu-wire_1000x_3.jpg], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/edge-Cu-wire_1000x_4_near_end.jpg], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/edge-Cu-wire_1500x_5-3d-3.jpg], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/EDGE_WIRE-SHORTESTS-Cu-_1500x_6-3d-3p.jpg], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/AT_END-Cu-wire3_1000x_1.jpg], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/images/TOWARD_CENTER-Cu-wire_3-LONGEST_WIRE_1000x_2.jpg]
 
#* Gusset ring
 
#* Gusset ring
 
# Electronics update (Chris)
 
# Electronics update (Chris)
# Chamber testing at EEL126 (Beni)
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# Chamber testing at EEL126 (cell#2) (Beni)
#* Status of cell#2
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#* Status with the HV
#* Deadened area tests
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#* Deadened area tests: [http://www.jlab.org/htbin/PHYSICS/halld/enote112.pl?nb=notebook&action=view&page=572]
 
# Other
 
# Other
  
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
  
Participants: Bill, Dave, Chris, Beni, Simon, Glenn, and Lubomir.
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Participants: Bill, Dave, Beni, Simon, and Lubomir. We covered important problems and at the same time we were missing people that could help with the discussions and decisions.  
  
 
== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
- Dave (see link above): all wire frames for the first package were laminated. Wire plane #5 ( the first to go in the package) will be populated tomorrow by Chris, followed by putting  Humi-seal on the caps, and then wire deadening. Techs are working also on cathodes for cell#6: cathode type 1 is ready and the foils for type 2 are being cut.  
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- Dave: Working now on the second cathode for cell#6. Another two cathodes are needed (type 1 and 2) to finish the cathodes for the first production package. There was a problem with the cutter; the springs will be replaced. The wire plane #5 is ready, yesterday we did the deadening. Right after the deadening a wire sample was made using the same chemical. The stringing stopped because of problems with the HV caps on the next wire frame #6.  
  
- Wire deadening of the first production chamber (wire plane #2) was successful. The thickness of one sample was measured by a microscope from Olympus company and they found it ~66 microns along one wire. The surface looked very good. We have permission to use the W&M microscope to check samples. Bill is going to look at different wires to make sure the tickness is the same.
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- Beginning with the wire frame #4, we started testing the HV caps before stringing. It requires some conditioning but few days were enough to test wire frame #5. Now we are having problems with wire frame #6. We identified so far 8 caps that need to be replaced. After the meeting we continued with the tests and we found another 4, so 12 in total. Anatoly, who removed the caps, mentioned that on 5 of these there were solder balls below the caps somewhere between the pads (see pictures linked above). The balls are actually flat (like coins). Therefore we suspect that they were there before the caps were un-soldered by Anatoly. If this is the case then we need to consider new procedures for cleaning/testing/replacing the caps on the boards before the lamination.
 
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- The chamber from 126 with cell#1 was moved to Blue Crab and the wire plane #1 was replaced with wire plane #2. All the cathode channels were tested with the testing card. We found that several daughter card connectors didn't make good contact at some channels. After re-connection (sometimes several) finally we got them working. One bad connection was found between the flex at the cathode (the first one of this kind!) and it was fixed after re-heating/pressing without changing the conductive tape. We found also on the top cathode at an area that was exposed directly to the AC blower in 126, that the silver epoxy got some brownish color. It turned out that 9 days ago after a thunderstorm overnight the AC in the EEL switched from cooling to heating and the temperature in the morning reached 95deg F. The AC was fixed by 10am. It is not clear if it was the heat or humidity that caused this discoloration. We will prototype it, but the resistivity at this place was still low.
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- Bill wants to try on one end window to use scotch-weld for gluing the thick mylar, he is afraid of the bubbles that appeared somewhere on the end windows.
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== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Bill: We measured the flatness of the new (wire plane #2) package that had now the new strong-back mounted on one side. There is a significant improvement but we still see +/- 11/1000" variations and some of them coming from the hubs. Bill/Dave will do more measurements.
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- Bill showed pictures (linked above) of the deadened area of one of the samples made by the W&M microscope. The surfaces, including the transition areas, look well polished and free of any sharp edges. The thicknesses along the wire and also for the different wires are very similar of about 66-68 microns, except at the very end of the deadened area where it is ~57 microns. Bill will look also at the last wire sample.  
  
- We discussed whether we need to cut the new gusset rings. The first two were cut but it resulted in some flatness problems. The point is that the gusset ring is right against the end window mylar that has ~0.5 Ohms/square resistivity and the cut in case of magnet quenching, will not help. There were discussions with Fernando after the meeting and he will look again into this. Important point he made is that in case of high current the aluminum will evaporate preventing higher currents. But then the question is what will happen with the aluminized mylar.
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- Do we need to cut the gusset ring? As estimated by Eugene in case of magnet trip without the cut we may have up to ~7mV e.m.f. That means in the ring (~10^-3 Ohms) we will have 7A current and the power will by ~50 mWatt. Nobody from the participants of the meeting was aware of any problem this power can cause. At the same time cutting the rings introduces some issues: flatness problems, dust from the fiber glass/carbon.
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Chris: the daughter/pre-amp card connectors can be used 10,000 times according to the specifications. Working FDC4 cables.
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- Chris (not at the meeting) is testing the daughter boards and out ~200 he found only several problems mostly on the connectors, that were easily fixed.  
 
   
 
   
== Chamber testing ==
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== Chamber testing at 126 (cell #2)  ==
  
- The new package (old cathodes, end widows and new wire plane #2) was moved to Blue Crab on Wednesday. The gas tightness is OK (as usual) and on the next day we were able to apply HV (1650/-200 with 90/10 Ar/CO2 ~300nA) on all the sectors except one (#4). It is not clear yet what is the problem there and the current is high between the field and sense wires: could be the Epolite again and then it would require more drying, or sense/field wires stuck together during transportation.
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- On the HV sector #4 we found that there is ~2 MOhm between the field and sense wires. There's no connection from both field and sense wires to ground which indicates most likely there's no broken wire. To further investigate the problem we will apply the same potential to both field and sense wires. This was done already and the HV was high enough to see signals with an iron source.
  
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- Beni was doing tests with HV sectors 1,2,3 using external tracking. The chamber trips once per one or two days. Beni studied the deadened area by looking at the chamber efficiency. The plot (page 572) shows the track position on the FDC as reconstructed from the IU chambers if there was a signal from the FDC wires: 24 channels on one side in the middle of the chamber. One can clearly see the deadened area also as a projection on one wire. The drift time spectrum is still a concern (bottom picture) therefore Beni decided to switch to a premixed bottle 89.7/10.3 Ar/CO2.

Latest revision as of 17:22, 19 August 2011

August 18, 2011 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production Construction Tracking (Dave)
  2. Engineering (Bill)
  3. Electronics update (Chris)
  4. Chamber testing at EEL126 (cell#2) (Beni)
    • Status with the HV
    • Deadened area tests: [15]
  5. Other


Minutes

Participants: Bill, Dave, Beni, Simon, and Lubomir. We covered important problems and at the same time we were missing people that could help with the discussions and decisions.

Production

- Dave: Working now on the second cathode for cell#6. Another two cathodes are needed (type 1 and 2) to finish the cathodes for the first production package. There was a problem with the cutter; the springs will be replaced. The wire plane #5 is ready, yesterday we did the deadening. Right after the deadening a wire sample was made using the same chemical. The stringing stopped because of problems with the HV caps on the next wire frame #6.

- Beginning with the wire frame #4, we started testing the HV caps before stringing. It requires some conditioning but few days were enough to test wire frame #5. Now we are having problems with wire frame #6. We identified so far 8 caps that need to be replaced. After the meeting we continued with the tests and we found another 4, so 12 in total. Anatoly, who removed the caps, mentioned that on 5 of these there were solder balls below the caps somewhere between the pads (see pictures linked above). The balls are actually flat (like coins). Therefore we suspect that they were there before the caps were un-soldered by Anatoly. If this is the case then we need to consider new procedures for cleaning/testing/replacing the caps on the boards before the lamination.

Engineering

- Bill showed pictures (linked above) of the deadened area of one of the samples made by the W&M microscope. The surfaces, including the transition areas, look well polished and free of any sharp edges. The thicknesses along the wire and also for the different wires are very similar of about 66-68 microns, except at the very end of the deadened area where it is ~57 microns. Bill will look also at the last wire sample.

- Do we need to cut the gusset ring? As estimated by Eugene in case of magnet trip without the cut we may have up to ~7mV e.m.f. That means in the ring (~10^-3 Ohms) we will have 7A current and the power will by ~50 mWatt. Nobody from the participants of the meeting was aware of any problem this power can cause. At the same time cutting the rings introduces some issues: flatness problems, dust from the fiber glass/carbon.

Electronics

- Chris (not at the meeting) is testing the daughter boards and out ~200 he found only several problems mostly on the connectors, that were easily fixed.

Chamber testing at 126 (cell #2)

- On the HV sector #4 we found that there is ~2 MOhm between the field and sense wires. There's no connection from both field and sense wires to ground which indicates most likely there's no broken wire. To further investigate the problem we will apply the same potential to both field and sense wires. This was done already and the HV was high enough to see signals with an iron source.

- Beni was doing tests with HV sectors 1,2,3 using external tracking. The chamber trips once per one or two days. Beni studied the deadened area by looking at the chamber efficiency. The plot (page 572) shows the track position on the FDC as reconstructed from the IU chambers if there was a signal from the FDC wires: 24 channels on one side in the middle of the chamber. One can clearly see the deadened area also as a projection on one wire. The drift time spectrum is still a concern (bottom picture) therefore Beni decided to switch to a premixed bottle 89.7/10.3 Ar/CO2.