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# Production
 
# Production
 
#* Status (Dave)
 
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#* Wire position scanning [http://www.jlab.org/htbin/PHYSICS/halld/enote112.pl?nb=notebook&action=view&page=564 logbook page 564] (Lubomir)
 
#* End window material (Bill)
 
#* End window material (Bill)
 
# Electronics (Fernando, Chris)  
 
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# Engineering status (Bill)
 
# Engineering status (Bill)
 
# Chamber testing (Beni)
 
# Chamber testing (Beni)
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#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/production/equipment_bluecrab.txt Equipment needed for Blue Crab]
 
#* Pressure measurements
 
#* Pressure measurements
 
# Other
 
# Other
  
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= Minutes =
 
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Participants: Eugene, Bill, Glenn, Chris, Roger, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.
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Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Roger, Beni, and Lubomir.
  
 
== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
- Problem again on Monday with the HVAC at Blue Crab: same transformer failed. It will be replaced with one with higher power, but the origin of the problem is not clear.  
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- Dave: Two cathode frames type 3 (with ground planes with holes) are assembled waiting for the rigid-flexes and ground wires to be glued on them. One wire frame was strung, the wires glued and now being soldered. Expect to be ready by the end of the day, then we will do position and tension measurements. We started also cutting foils for the third cathode plane and the second wire frame is also ready.
  
- Two cathodes are glued to the frames, including the flaps. Next steps: tensioning/gluing the mylar and gluing the mylar flaps on top of the copper flaps. We have to decide what should be the tension on the mylar: it's not as critical as for the kapton foil. For gluing the mylar flaps Bill suggested using conductive epoxy only in the area overlapping with the copper flaps, and regular epoxy over the g10 frame. Mark made a template needed to make holes on the mylar.
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- We discussed the configuration needed to test the first chamber: end window, cathode type 3, wire plane, cathode type 3, end window, plus empty frames to make the same thickness as of the full package. We will use the plastic gussets. Bill wanted first to do gas leakage tests with these plastic gussets, but actually such test was done before.  
  
- One wire frame was strung and now they are measuring the wire positions. The new laser sensor that was mounted on the system has higher resolution but there was not enough light reflecting from the wire. We replaced it with the old sensor that, after some tuning, is being used with the old software for position measurements. The CC wants us to give them the computer used with the wire stringing system for repairing the OS. Eugene: this is critical for the production and we don't want to spend even an hour on this now.
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- End window material. Bill found two options: 1mil available now, and 2mil roll for ~$1500 total that we can have in ~2 weeks. For the first two end windows we decided to use the 1mil material.  
  
- Lessons learned from the production so far: Lubomir will start collecting corrections to the existing procedures based on this experience. In particular we discussed the potential problem due to the extra epoxy on the inner edge of the cathode frame that can puncture the cathode. Bill suggested whipping with ethanol the epoxy from the katon right after gluing.  
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- Wire position measurements. We had problems finding the field wire positions: the laser sensor doesn't see about 20% of them while sees all the sense wires. Possible explanations: vibrations due to HVAC on the top of the clean room; one can actually see the weights vibrating. It could be also the surface of the field wires is somehow different in reflecting the laser beam. Before for the test wire frame all the field wires were seen by the sensor, but we used different type of field wires. Two samples of our field wires will be analyzed with electron microscope by Olga. It turned out that if the sensor doesn't see the wire, a tiny move along the wire is enough to see it. This is the way all the wires of the first chamber were scanned before gluing them. These results are compared with the old results for the test chamber at page 564 of the logbook linked above. In between the two stringing the jig rail was modified to fix the ~250microns offset in one pitch, but now it looks like we have ~80 microns in the opposite direction. Eugene also mentioned the difference in the slope in the above plots before and after for which we couldn't find an explanation.  
  
- A report from Olga (linked above) about the discoloration spots on the cathodes: there's chlorine but also sulfur at some places. According to Roger Allflex doesn't use ferric chloride for etching. Therefore the origin of both Cl and S is not clear. Roger will ask Allflex for samples of water that is used there. We also got foil samples from Allflex not wrapped with paper that we are going to test to exclude the paper as a possible origin. In any case the resistivity is not affected by these spots and they are not reactive, so we decided to continue with the foil production.
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- We were able to fix all the sense wires that were off by more than ~60 microns (6 wires in total) by re-taping them. Also right after gluing we scanned all the sense wires. It took ~1 hour and in principle you could correct the wire positions if you have to, since the glue is still not hard enough.
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Chris: got an answer from the company for the stuffing of the first 100 rigid-flexes. Bill and Lubomir: we need 18-20 for the first chamber next week; Chris will talk to them.
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- Lubomir talked to Fernando about assembling by Chris the rigid-flexes that are needed for the first chamber. If we can have the assembled flexes back from the company within a week that would be fine, but if not we should consider doing it here. We should decide about this by next Monday. Also there was a question to Fernando: what kind of tests have to be done with the assembled rigid-flexes before gluing them to the cathodes.
  
- Beni made pictures (pages 561-563) of the pre-amps that we use now on the prototype and then verified with Fernando the resistor settings. So we have for the cathodes 2.6mV/fC (high gain, RC=1, DR at 5% = 130fC or 338mV) and for the anodes (with and without discriminator) 0.77mV/fC (low gain, RC=0, DR at 5% 260fC or 200mV). The dynamic ranges we observe correspond to these values. Before, there was some confusion, we assumed we had 0.62mV/fC for the anode cards.
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- Roger brought the second batch of the rigid-flexes, to be moved to 117.
  
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Bill can't find a good solution for storing the cathode foils. The jig plate for the package assembling is in the machine shop.
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- Bill: the ultrasonic cleaner that was fixed by the manufacturer will be back next week. Bill was looking also for a storage for the produced chambers.
  
 
== Chamber testing ==
 
== Chamber testing ==
  
- Simon reported his results about strip resolution and calibration. He used a new procedure (better pedestal subtraction), explained in pages 557-560 of the FDC logbook, that improved the strip resolution by ~20%. Eugene: such procedure may work in different ways on the central and side strips and one may use the sample range defined by the central strip also for the side strips. This however is difficult to implement within the fADC125 firmware.
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- The parts needed for the chamber testing at Blue Crab are listed above by Beni. Mark will help him with the gas connectors. We have now only one Bertan supply that we have to share between 126 and Blue Crab. The second supply has to be fixed but they asked for $1700 just to look at it; Mark will try to fix it. We need also blind penetration in the clean room walls to have gas inside. Eugene will try to expedite the work order made weeks ago.
  
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- Beni connected a pressure sensor to measure the pressure difference between the top and middle chamber of the prototype package, but the readings fluctuate because of the bubbling. The best is to connect the sensor to the extra tubes on the spacer rings, but those are broken and the fix them most likely will require disassembly of that package.

Latest revision as of 16:33, 5 May 2011

May 5, 2011 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production
    • Status (Dave)
    • Wire position scanning logbook page 564 (Lubomir)
    • End window material (Bill)
  2. Electronics (Fernando, Chris)
    • Status
    • Rigid-flex stuffing
  3. Engineering status (Bill)
  4. Chamber testing (Beni)
  5. Other


Minutes

Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Roger, Beni, and Lubomir.

Production

- Dave: Two cathode frames type 3 (with ground planes with holes) are assembled waiting for the rigid-flexes and ground wires to be glued on them. One wire frame was strung, the wires glued and now being soldered. Expect to be ready by the end of the day, then we will do position and tension measurements. We started also cutting foils for the third cathode plane and the second wire frame is also ready.

- We discussed the configuration needed to test the first chamber: end window, cathode type 3, wire plane, cathode type 3, end window, plus empty frames to make the same thickness as of the full package. We will use the plastic gussets. Bill wanted first to do gas leakage tests with these plastic gussets, but actually such test was done before.

- End window material. Bill found two options: 1mil available now, and 2mil roll for ~$1500 total that we can have in ~2 weeks. For the first two end windows we decided to use the 1mil material.

- Wire position measurements. We had problems finding the field wire positions: the laser sensor doesn't see about 20% of them while sees all the sense wires. Possible explanations: vibrations due to HVAC on the top of the clean room; one can actually see the weights vibrating. It could be also the surface of the field wires is somehow different in reflecting the laser beam. Before for the test wire frame all the field wires were seen by the sensor, but we used different type of field wires. Two samples of our field wires will be analyzed with electron microscope by Olga. It turned out that if the sensor doesn't see the wire, a tiny move along the wire is enough to see it. This is the way all the wires of the first chamber were scanned before gluing them. These results are compared with the old results for the test chamber at page 564 of the logbook linked above. In between the two stringing the jig rail was modified to fix the ~250microns offset in one pitch, but now it looks like we have ~80 microns in the opposite direction. Eugene also mentioned the difference in the slope in the above plots before and after for which we couldn't find an explanation.

- We were able to fix all the sense wires that were off by more than ~60 microns (6 wires in total) by re-taping them. Also right after gluing we scanned all the sense wires. It took ~1 hour and in principle you could correct the wire positions if you have to, since the glue is still not hard enough.

Electronics

- Lubomir talked to Fernando about assembling by Chris the rigid-flexes that are needed for the first chamber. If we can have the assembled flexes back from the company within a week that would be fine, but if not we should consider doing it here. We should decide about this by next Monday. Also there was a question to Fernando: what kind of tests have to be done with the assembled rigid-flexes before gluing them to the cathodes.

- Roger brought the second batch of the rigid-flexes, to be moved to 117.

Engineering

- Bill: the ultrasonic cleaner that was fixed by the manufacturer will be back next week. Bill was looking also for a storage for the produced chambers.

Chamber testing

- The parts needed for the chamber testing at Blue Crab are listed above by Beni. Mark will help him with the gas connectors. We have now only one Bertan supply that we have to share between 126 and Blue Crab. The second supply has to be fixed but they asked for $1700 just to look at it; Mark will try to fix it. We need also blind penetration in the clean room walls to have gas inside. Eugene will try to expedite the work order made weeks ago.

- Beni connected a pressure sensor to measure the pressure difference between the top and middle chamber of the prototype package, but the readings fluctuate because of the bubbling. The best is to connect the sensor to the extra tubes on the spacer rings, but those are broken and the fix them most likely will require disassembly of that package.