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# Installation [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/procedures/FDC_install.jpg schedule] (Lubomir)
 
# Installation [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/procedures/FDC_install.jpg schedule] (Lubomir)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
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# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
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# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
 
# Other
 
# Other
  
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== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
- Dave: one more cathode with the daughter cards installed. Chris and Nick finished the HV cabling/connectors for the last package (#2). The PR for Vision Machine (for the gas blocks and thick spacers) went through, Adam already contacted Bill with this respect.   
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- Dave: one more cathode with the daughter cards installed. Chris and Nick finished the HV cabling/connectors for the last package (#2). The package is ready for testing, just have to install it on the strong-back and also drill holes at the periphery of the end-window to attach the HV cables at the bottom. The PR for Vision Machine (for the gas blocks and thick spacers) went through, Adam already contacted Bill with this respect.   
  
- We are planning to fix the HV problem in package #3 starting next week when the mounting table will be available. The problematic HV sector (#2, 20 wires) is in plane 6 (not 5! as in the previous minutes), so it will be easier since we will open it from the back of the package. Bill agrees this is doable.  
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- We are planning to fix the HV problem in package #3 starting next week when the mounting table will be available. The problematic HV sector (#2, 20 wires) is in plane 6 (not 5! as in the previous minutes), so it will be easier since we will open it from the back of the package. Bill agrees this is doable.
  
 
== Rebaselining update ==
 
== Rebaselining update ==
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== Installation ==
 
== Installation ==
  
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- Starting with this meeting we will have discussions about the FDC installations. The installation schedule linked above was made with FastTrack using the rebaseline-d schedule. Items not for FDC, but related/needed for the FDC installation (predecessors) are also included.
  
== Engineering ==
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- First, it's not clear when we have to move out from Blue Crab. It was decided end of last year that the lease will be extended by one month (till Sep.23), but whether this will be done and how much time facilities need to remove everything from there is not clear. For now we plan to stay there (at least to keep the FDC packages) till Aug. 23. If this is not the case we have to find a good temporary place for the FDC. We were talking also about what will happen with the clean room; everybody says destroying it will be wasting of a lot of money. We also have to find space for all the equipment/tooling so that we will be able to do fixes later if needed. Chris proposed to bring the most valuable tooling to 117.
  
Bill was not at the meeting but some of the questions were clarified after the meeting by him.
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- The rails on the platform have to be installed before the FDC appears in the Hall. So far there's no timing issue with that but it's tight. There's maybe a contradiction between BCAL installation and rail mounting that Tim has to address. We depend also on the cable preparations that will be finished just before we start connecting the cables. In any case the schedule as it is, looks fragile
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and we may have to find temporary place for the FDC if there are delays.  
  
- Due to the problems with the power in 126 (see below), Bill proposed to use a water chiller borrowed from the FEL (120VAC) both for the cooling system test and for the test of one package with full electronics in 126. The chiller requires some fixing that will be done in 5-10 days.
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- The timing of the crate installation also contradicts with the timing of the cabling. The crates/modules have to be there, for the cables to be connected, routed and service loops made. Now the crate installation finishes at the same time when the cable installation finishes; we are not sure if and how this will work.  
  
- Cooling system tests: Bill wants to test his ANSI model using one loop with 22 pre-amps. So far we can't find spare pre-amp back-brackets needed for the tests, but will find a solution to that. Eugene was concerned the viscosity of the water and Fluorinert are different, but Bill explained actually they are very similar. Beni: more important are the impedances and this is what this test is going to check. Bill has results from ANSI for both, water and Fluorinert.  
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- The insertion of the FDC is planned for middle of November, and before that (from middle of October) we will be testing the packages extensively. No fixes can be done after the FDC is inserted. Beni listed the main items needed for the tests: trigger from scintillators (possibly  a pair of paddles for each package, or just two that we will move). We need to work with up to 8 crates and Beni thinks this is the limit when using the modules that are in these crates only (ROCs, TIs). Another trigger option will be to have self-triggering from the fADC125s and F1TDCs; Fernando promised to look if this is possible. We expect the gas system to be ready by that time.
  
-  Cooling of one full package in 126: The water chiller is 1kW which is more than enough for one package that needs ~0.25kW. Eugene was concerned that water may leak and cause damages, and that's why we decided to use Fluorinert. Unlike inside the magnet, we will have access to all the tube connections. Also, Bill wants to test the tubing for leakage with gas and then to put water there.
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== Engineering ==
 
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- 208VAC power in 126: according to Jason Willoughby there are only 3 spaces left in the panel board which is enough for either (1) one real-3-phase 208VAC receptacle, or (2) three "1-phase" 208VAC receptacles. (1) is needed for the SMC chiller (with Fluorinert) and (2) is needed for the three VXS crates. That's why the only way to do the test with full electronics in 126 is to have three "1-phase" 208VAC receptacles and use the FEL water chiller. Bill instructed Jason to proceed with the second option.
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== Electronics ==
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- Bill with the help of Casey, started forming/cutting the cooling tubes on package #4 to install the manifolds. The procedure worked OK (except for the thread of one manifold) with some minor modifications. The first pair was mounted after the meeting (see picture above attached).
  
- Decided to use "red" color to mark all the FDC cables. "Black" was taken by BCAL.
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- As it turned out at the end of last week, we have all the power needed for 126: 3-phase 208V and 110V/15A for the VXS crates. One crate with 15 F1TDCs worked with such power for many months.
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Since we have power for the SMC chiller it will be used for the tests with the full electronics. The chiller has been cabled already. We need also the water chiller that we borrowed from the FEL, but it needs fixes for $1.8k (PR submitted for that).  
  
- Chris and Nick will come next week to Blue Crab to work on the HV cabling for package #2 and to populate the last two wire planes.    
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- To do the cooling system test with one cell, Bill needs ~20 pre-amp brackets (Nick may have them). Casey worked on the hardware for this test.
  
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
  
- Beni continues testing the first package: taking plateau data at different thresholds in the range of 5-11Volts (on the threshold supply) and 2050-2200V on the sense wires. Will be ready with the tests by Wednesday next week. The plan is to bring the package back to Blue Crab Wednesday afternoon and eventually to move the second package (the last to be tested) to EEL126.
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- Beni is almost at the end of testing package #1 (just one more run) and promised perfect results to be presented at the next meeting.
  
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- The plan is to get the truck tomorrow (hopefully morning) to move package #1 to Blue Crab, take the strong back and install it on package #2, then in the afternoon bring #2 for testing at EEL126.

Latest revision as of 00:55, 1 April 2015

March 7, 2013 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production Construction Tracking (Dave)
    • Spare parts
    • Package #2 status
    • Package #3 repair
  2. Rebaselining update [1](Lubomir)
  3. Installation schedule (Lubomir)
  4. Engineering (Bill)
  5. Electronics (Chris, Nick)
  6. Tests at EEL126 FDC E-log (Beni)
  7. Other

Minutes

Participants: Bill, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.

Production

- Dave: one more cathode with the daughter cards installed. Chris and Nick finished the HV cabling/connectors for the last package (#2). The package is ready for testing, just have to install it on the strong-back and also drill holes at the periphery of the end-window to attach the HV cables at the bottom. The PR for Vision Machine (for the gas blocks and thick spacers) went through, Adam already contacted Bill with this respect.

- We are planning to fix the HV problem in package #3 starting next week when the mounting table will be available. The problematic HV sector (#2, 20 wires) is in plane 6 (not 5! as in the previous minutes), so it will be easier since we will open it from the back of the package. Bill agrees this is doable.

Rebaselining update

- For all of the FDC activities there are links in the above html file, explaining the scope, resources and bases for estimates. Within these links for some of the items there are additional links to documents used for these estimations. There are some items we were not sure about like: 25211210 (materials for cooling), 25211215 (materials for alignment/fiducials), 25211216 (materials for HV connectors). Bill thinks all the materials for the first two have been ordered. As for the HV connectors, we have all the connectors that we need for the FDC (Nick).

Installation

- Starting with this meeting we will have discussions about the FDC installations. The installation schedule linked above was made with FastTrack using the rebaseline-d schedule. Items not for FDC, but related/needed for the FDC installation (predecessors) are also included.

- First, it's not clear when we have to move out from Blue Crab. It was decided end of last year that the lease will be extended by one month (till Sep.23), but whether this will be done and how much time facilities need to remove everything from there is not clear. For now we plan to stay there (at least to keep the FDC packages) till Aug. 23. If this is not the case we have to find a good temporary place for the FDC. We were talking also about what will happen with the clean room; everybody says destroying it will be wasting of a lot of money. We also have to find space for all the equipment/tooling so that we will be able to do fixes later if needed. Chris proposed to bring the most valuable tooling to 117.

- The rails on the platform have to be installed before the FDC appears in the Hall. So far there's no timing issue with that but it's tight. There's maybe a contradiction between BCAL installation and rail mounting that Tim has to address. We depend also on the cable preparations that will be finished just before we start connecting the cables. In any case the schedule as it is, looks fragile and we may have to find temporary place for the FDC if there are delays.

- The timing of the crate installation also contradicts with the timing of the cabling. The crates/modules have to be there, for the cables to be connected, routed and service loops made. Now the crate installation finishes at the same time when the cable installation finishes; we are not sure if and how this will work.

- The insertion of the FDC is planned for middle of November, and before that (from middle of October) we will be testing the packages extensively. No fixes can be done after the FDC is inserted. Beni listed the main items needed for the tests: trigger from scintillators (possibly a pair of paddles for each package, or just two that we will move). We need to work with up to 8 crates and Beni thinks this is the limit when using the modules that are in these crates only (ROCs, TIs). Another trigger option will be to have self-triggering from the fADC125s and F1TDCs; Fernando promised to look if this is possible. We expect the gas system to be ready by that time.

Engineering

- Bill with the help of Casey, started forming/cutting the cooling tubes on package #4 to install the manifolds. The procedure worked OK (except for the thread of one manifold) with some minor modifications. The first pair was mounted after the meeting (see picture above attached).

- As it turned out at the end of last week, we have all the power needed for 126: 3-phase 208V and 110V/15A for the VXS crates. One crate with 15 F1TDCs worked with such power for many months. Since we have power for the SMC chiller it will be used for the tests with the full electronics. The chiller has been cabled already. We need also the water chiller that we borrowed from the FEL, but it needs fixes for $1.8k (PR submitted for that).

- To do the cooling system test with one cell, Bill needs ~20 pre-amp brackets (Nick may have them). Casey worked on the hardware for this test.

Tests at EEL126

- Beni is almost at the end of testing package #1 (just one more run) and promised perfect results to be presented at the next meeting.

- The plan is to get the truck tomorrow (hopefully morning) to move package #1 to Blue Crab, take the strong back and install it on package #2, then in the afternoon bring #2 for testing at EEL126.