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#* CDC update (Beni/Mike)
 
#* CDC update (Beni/Mike)
 
#* FDC update
 
#* FDC update
#** [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3393579 full/empty target currents]
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#** [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3393579 full/empty target currents], [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3393560 field/ no field currents]
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#** straight track results: [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/WireRes_15_16.pdf wire resolution],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/Eff_FDC3_new.pdf FDC3 preliminary efficiency]  
 
# Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
 
# fADC125 meeting (Naomi, Cody, Beni)
 
# fADC125 meeting (Naomi, Cody, Beni)
#* leading edge timing resolution [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836.pdf TH=120], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run11055.pdf TH=40],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836_gt600.pdf resolution ADC>600, TH=120],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836_lt600.pdf resolution ADC<600, TH=120]  
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#* leading edge timing resolution [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836.pdf TH=100], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run11055.pdf TH=50],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836_gt600.pdf resolution ADC>600, TH=120],[http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2016run/fADC_Tres_run10836_lt600.pdf resolution ADC<600, TH=120] (Lubomir)
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
  
Participants: Mike (CMU) Luke, Beni, Eugene, Simon, Nick, David L. and Lubomir (JLab).
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Participants: Curtis, Mike (CMU) Eugene, Beni, Luke, Cody, Simon, Nick, Naomi, and Lubomir (JLab).
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== Run status ==
  
== NIM papers ==
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- Simon showed results for two-track vertices from straight track data (see the logentry). We first discussed the two stripes on the 2d plot - r vs z of the vertex position. The upstream one is at the downstream CDC plate. The other stripe is in the middle of the first package (not clear why?). This may indicate background from photons(?) stopping in the CDC plate that has an inner radius of ~10cm; for r<10cm the photons are stopped in the first package. Eugene: e+/e- from the photon conversion can't be separated without magnetic field.
  
- Attached is the submitted version of the contribution to the VCI conference.  
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- Second part of Simon's results: projections on z. The positions of the target walls and the scattering chamber, as defined by the FDC with straight tracks, are off by almost 1cm  as compared to the results when using the CDC with magnetic field. Later Simon included FDC-only track with magnetic field and confirmed an offset b/n FDC and CDC by about 8mm.  
  
== Detector and firmware status ==
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- Lubomir showed comparison b/n the FDC currents with full/empty target without magnetic field and 3.4mm collimator. The ratio is 2.4, to be compared to 1.4 we had before with magnetic field and 5mm collimator. The FDC currents when normalized to the active target with 3.4mm are about 20% higher than with 5mm collimator, indicating additional background not related to the collimator hole. Lubomir also showed how the FDC currents change with the magnetic field (see logentry): from 0 to 450A the currents decrease by a factor of ~4.5. There's additional factor of 5 from 450A to 1200A, so in total ~22. This is to be compared to a factor of ~40 from the spring of 2015, also indicating some extra background that we have now. 
  
- Beni: no HV trips in the CDC even when the gas was Argon-reach (when the CO2 switch-over didn't work). Testing with Cody latest version of the firmware which in addition to some fixes, has the option for PBIT parameter to be negative.
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- Latest FDC wire resolution (see plot above) obtained with straight tracks is a little better than a year ago, when we had half the energy. Most likely this is due to the higher momentum of the tracks. The efficiency of the chambers (third package shown as an example) is ~90%, lower than the last year's 95%. Needs to be studied, could be a timing issue.
  
- For the first part of the run FDC had threshold for sparsification of 120 for all the channels, with TH=100 and TL=25. Since then we tried (with cosmics) individual thresholds of 7 and 5 sigma the widths of the pedestals, that however have to be bigger than TH which was set to 50 and 40. The problem is that TH is the same for all the channels in the module. Lubomir is studying the effect of the TH/TL on the resolution of the timing algorithm. This is done by comparing the time from the wire TDCs (using fADC125 trigger time as reference) and the leading edge time from the firmware for the corresponding strip signal. Results will be presented on the next meeting. In any case, for rest of the run we will use 5 sigma thresholds, since the data volume with cosmics from 120 to 40 threshold increased by only about 20%.
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== fADC125 ==
  
- The trigger time is reported in two words, the first having the most significant part. In f250 the first word has the less significant part of the trigger time, which is done to save space in case you don't need two words. We will discuss this on the next meeting.
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- The CDC & FDC crates are using the firmware version 2_00_F_3 but the DAQ still has the older driver library on it.  The new firmware has some improvements made by Cody in the compilation.  As previously, the pedestal output is the integrated pedestal (sum of 2**P2 samples), right-shifted by (P2+PBIT). The new firmware allows PBIT to have integer values from 3 down to -P2, so the possible output values for pedestal now include the mean scaled by 1/8 (PBIT=3), the mean (PBIT=0), and the integral (PBIT=-P2).  Other scaling factors can be obtained using different PBIT values.  Previous versions of the firmware and driver use PBIT >=0.  This change was made because Lubomir had been expecting the firmware to output the integrated pedestal instead of the mean. Using PBIT=-P2 permits this while requiring no changes to the offline code.  We need to remind Sergey to update the library.
  
- Lubomir: sometime the timing algorithm reports leading edge time bigger than the threshold crossing time (with the quality flag set to 1). Lubomir proposed to check if the leading edge is smaller than the threshold crossing and if NOT, to use the threshold crossing as a start of the integration and peak searching algorithm. Cody: it's doable. Will be discussed on the next meeting.
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- Cody suspected that some of the timing errors that we are seeing in the fa125 long mode data are due to triggers arriving too frequently. We thought that bufferlevel=1 would restrict the triggers so that only one trigger was sent to the fa125 at a time, but this turned out to be untrue, the value in the configuration file is only a place-holder and the true value is a constant 4. Beni increased the trigger holdoff from 15us to 30us and the number of timing errors halved. Naomi asked Sascha to recompile the CODA readout list with bufferlevel=1 and we took cosmic run 11075. After this, the readout list was recompiled with bufferlevel=4 as before.  The timing errors in run 11075 are almost entirely from 6 channels, numbers 36,38,40 in two fadc modules (roc25 slot 9 and roc28 slot 16). We have not found any logic errors in the firmware.
   
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- Since the magnet is down we propose to get some straight track data. The proposal was accepted later on a run coordination meeting for 6 hours in total (2 on empty target).
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== Other ==
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- Sascha offered to make bufferlevel into a real parameter, we should take him up on this.  We also mentioned the possibility of using the busy signal from the fa125 as a trigger inhibit, this should be more efficient in short mode, but this seems further back in Sascha's to-do list, as it is part of a larger makeover to do this for ALL the modules.
  
- David for the open house: it would be good to have the spare package on the platform, will give people an idea what's inside the magnet. The downstream side will be closed with aluminum cup, we may leave the upstream opened or have a transparent cover.
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- Cody made the raw data output more robust in version 2_00_E, it turned out to be bufferlevel=4 causing the trouble with repeated raw data words, this was the clue that the triggers might be arriving too close together.  We have not seen any more repeated raw data words since then, although there are very occasional errors (one per run) with channel number mismatch between pulse and window data.
  
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- Lubomir estimated the timing algorithm  resolution by comparing it with the TDC time from the wires. The TDC counts were taken w.r.t. to the trigger time as recorded by the f125 to eliminate the trigger jitter. For TH=100 and TL=25 we get 6ns resolutions for big signals (>600 fADC unist) and 8ns for amplitudes <600. From the plot one can see that a time-walk correction would improve the resolution there. For TH=50 and TL=12 the resolutions are much worse (>12ns). These are combined fADC/TDC resolutions, but the assumption is that the TDC contribution is smaller.

Latest revision as of 20:52, 6 April 2016

March 31, 2016 Drift Chamber meeting

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Agenda

  1. NIM Papers
  2. Run Status
  3. Electronics (Fernando, Chris, Nick)
  4. fADC125 meeting (Naomi, Cody, Beni)
  5. Other

Minutes

Participants: Curtis, Mike (CMU) Eugene, Beni, Luke, Cody, Simon, Nick, Naomi, and Lubomir (JLab).

Run status

- Simon showed results for two-track vertices from straight track data (see the logentry). We first discussed the two stripes on the 2d plot - r vs z of the vertex position. The upstream one is at the downstream CDC plate. The other stripe is in the middle of the first package (not clear why?). This may indicate background from photons(?) stopping in the CDC plate that has an inner radius of ~10cm; for r<10cm the photons are stopped in the first package. Eugene: e+/e- from the photon conversion can't be separated without magnetic field.

- Second part of Simon's results: projections on z. The positions of the target walls and the scattering chamber, as defined by the FDC with straight tracks, are off by almost 1cm as compared to the results when using the CDC with magnetic field. Later Simon included FDC-only track with magnetic field and confirmed an offset b/n FDC and CDC by about 8mm.

- Lubomir showed comparison b/n the FDC currents with full/empty target without magnetic field and 3.4mm collimator. The ratio is 2.4, to be compared to 1.4 we had before with magnetic field and 5mm collimator. The FDC currents when normalized to the active target with 3.4mm are about 20% higher than with 5mm collimator, indicating additional background not related to the collimator hole. Lubomir also showed how the FDC currents change with the magnetic field (see logentry): from 0 to 450A the currents decrease by a factor of ~4.5. There's additional factor of 5 from 450A to 1200A, so in total ~22. This is to be compared to a factor of ~40 from the spring of 2015, also indicating some extra background that we have now.

- Latest FDC wire resolution (see plot above) obtained with straight tracks is a little better than a year ago, when we had half the energy. Most likely this is due to the higher momentum of the tracks. The efficiency of the chambers (third package shown as an example) is ~90%, lower than the last year's 95%. Needs to be studied, could be a timing issue.

fADC125

- The CDC & FDC crates are using the firmware version 2_00_F_3 but the DAQ still has the older driver library on it. The new firmware has some improvements made by Cody in the compilation. As previously, the pedestal output is the integrated pedestal (sum of 2**P2 samples), right-shifted by (P2+PBIT). The new firmware allows PBIT to have integer values from 3 down to -P2, so the possible output values for pedestal now include the mean scaled by 1/8 (PBIT=3), the mean (PBIT=0), and the integral (PBIT=-P2). Other scaling factors can be obtained using different PBIT values. Previous versions of the firmware and driver use PBIT >=0. This change was made because Lubomir had been expecting the firmware to output the integrated pedestal instead of the mean. Using PBIT=-P2 permits this while requiring no changes to the offline code. We need to remind Sergey to update the library.

- Cody suspected that some of the timing errors that we are seeing in the fa125 long mode data are due to triggers arriving too frequently. We thought that bufferlevel=1 would restrict the triggers so that only one trigger was sent to the fa125 at a time, but this turned out to be untrue, the value in the configuration file is only a place-holder and the true value is a constant 4. Beni increased the trigger holdoff from 15us to 30us and the number of timing errors halved. Naomi asked Sascha to recompile the CODA readout list with bufferlevel=1 and we took cosmic run 11075. After this, the readout list was recompiled with bufferlevel=4 as before. The timing errors in run 11075 are almost entirely from 6 channels, numbers 36,38,40 in two fadc modules (roc25 slot 9 and roc28 slot 16). We have not found any logic errors in the firmware.

- Sascha offered to make bufferlevel into a real parameter, we should take him up on this. We also mentioned the possibility of using the busy signal from the fa125 as a trigger inhibit, this should be more efficient in short mode, but this seems further back in Sascha's to-do list, as it is part of a larger makeover to do this for ALL the modules.

- Cody made the raw data output more robust in version 2_00_E, it turned out to be bufferlevel=4 causing the trouble with repeated raw data words, this was the clue that the triggers might be arriving too close together. We have not seen any more repeated raw data words since then, although there are very occasional errors (one per run) with channel number mismatch between pulse and window data.

- Lubomir estimated the timing algorithm resolution by comparing it with the TDC time from the wires. The TDC counts were taken w.r.t. to the trigger time as recorded by the f125 to eliminate the trigger jitter. For TH=100 and TL=25 we get 6ns resolutions for big signals (>600 fADC unist) and 8ns for amplitudes <600. From the plot one can see that a time-walk correction would improve the resolution there. For TH=50 and TL=12 the resolutions are much worse (>12ns). These are combined fADC/TDC resolutions, but the assumption is that the TDC contribution is smaller.