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# Gas issues
 
# Gas issues
#* FDC gain measurements [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/gain_press_plot.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/gain_hv_plot.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/old_gas_gain_studies.gif old measurements]
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#* FDC gain measurements [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/55Fe_fdc4_hall.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/gain_press_plot.pdf], [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/gain_hv_plot.pdf],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/old_gas_gain_studies.gif old measurements]
# CDC update (Beni, Mike)[https://halldweb1.jlab.org/wiki/images/9/9b/Run2649CDC.pdf]
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# CDC update (Beni, Mike)[https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/9/9b/Run2649CDC.pdf]
# FDC update [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/corrosion/cathode_from_spare_Package.JPG] (Lubomir)   
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# FDC update
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#* Fluorinert leakage [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2015run/IMG_1996.JPG on 03/09],  [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/spring2015run/IMG_2008.JPG on 03/18]
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#* no corrosion [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/corrosion/cathode_from_spare_Package.JPG] (Lubomir)   
 
# Electronics: logbook entry [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3325323 3325323], [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3325070 3325070] (Fernando, Cody, Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics: logbook entry [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3325323 3325323], [https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3325070 3325070] (Fernando, Cody, Chris, Nick)
 
# Engineering (Dave)
 
# Engineering (Dave)
 
#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/DS_PMP_0013_2.pdf CO2 sensor pump]
 
#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/gas_system/DS_PMP_0013_2.pdf CO2 sensor pump]
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
  
Participants: Curtis, Naomi (CMU), Sean (NU), Fernando, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir (JLab).
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Participants: Naomi (CMU), Sean (NU), Fernando, Dave, Chris, Nick, Beni, Sergey, and Lubomir (JLab).
  
 
== Gas issues ==
 
== Gas issues ==
  
- CO2 was monitored for another 4 days: the first plot is with a correction function with a power of 2.4, second with 1.4, as explained in the previous meeting. First, the sensor was connected to the CDC for one day(Thursday-Friday), then moved to EEl126. There the bottle was almost empty and as it turned out the CO2 was lower than 60%. On Sunday the bottle was replaced and by Tuesday the values were close to 60%. At that time the fan failed - as the instructions say it has 1000h life and we were using it one month already. We didn't learn a lot from these measurements, except that the change of the gas factor, done a week ago, showed almost no effect (within 0.5-1%, as expected) on the gas mixture. If we want to continue monitoring CO2 we need to buy another pump ($200) that will work for another month, or try to find a better pump. Beni suggested using the pump that Bill made for the O2 measurements.  
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- Lubomir presented summary of the FDC gas gain measurements with 55Fe source: first plot shows charge distributions at different HV in the Hall, package 4. Second plot is a summary of all the measurements at 2200/-500V both in the Hall and in the EEL126 with the spare package, as a function of the atmospheric pressure. 1% change of the pressure results in 5-7% change of the gain, as expected from the literature. By some reasons the charge on the upper strips is bigger than on the down ones for both measurements in the EEL and in the Hall; needs further studies. Third plot shows the gain-HV dependence at fixed (+/- 0.2 kPa) atmospheric pressure from the measurements and also from Garfield simulations. Garfield predicts somewhat stronger dependence: Sergey explains it with space charge effects at higher gains when using 55Fe source. Assuming a mixture of 45/55 Ar/CO2 (plus 0.3% alcohol) in the Hall, Garfield predicts higher gains, all this relative to the standard gas mixture 40/60 in the EEL. A simple explanation might be a difference of the gas temperature in the Hall and in the EEL: 6 degC lower temperature in the Hall will explain it, or 1% (absolute) change of the CO2. Conclusion: generally the gain measurements in the EEL and in the Hall are in agreement with  a change of the CO2 from 60% to 55% (+/-1%). Last plot shows previous gain measurements for four gas mixtures using different techniques.  
  
- Beni did different changes in the settings of the mass flow controllers used for the CDC mixing and was looking at the maximum drift time. Changing the gas factor didn't show any difference (within 1%). Then he changed the controller mode from "mixing" to independent flow control, also made the flow rates in and out of the mixing tank very similar. With the latest modification Beni found a slight change in the drift time but in the opposite direction, i.e. shorter. Next steps: change the gas factors to 1 to see if it will make any difference. Beni suspects something is wrong with the controller boxes.    
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- Beni continued  changing different configurations in the gas mixing system trying to identify the source of the disagreement without success so far: the biggest change in the max drift time was 8% but was not repeatable.
  
- Lubomir did measurements in the Hall with an iron source attached at the downstream side of the FDC. There were two sets of measurements (Friday and Monday) at different atmospheric pressures, both sets at three HV values 2100-2150-2200V. Results will be presented on the next meeting, but we do see indeed higher amplitudes in the Hall, compared to the measurements with the spare package, consistent with the lower CO2 percentage.  
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== CDC update ==
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- Mike showed a plot with the positions of the noisy channels: most are at ~7 o'clock. The HV filter was installed on the channels at ~9 o'clock and this sector is indeed very clean.
  
 
== FDC update ==
 
== FDC update ==
  
- The chiller is working fine so far. There was a problem with one HV channel (FDC2, Cell1) that tripped on Wednesday night and then it took three days to condition it and set it back. In the plot attached you see that on Wednesday the humidity was >55%, which combined with the water on the stairs from the melting snow and the fact that the AC was not working at that time, may have caused the problem. Fortunately, next three days the humidity was as low as 20%.  
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- The chiller is consuming a lot of Fluorinert. After 10 days of operation we had to refill it with ~1.5 galons (see photos attached). Need to sniff the connections and later possibly the chiller inside. As discussed with Eugene and Tim, the plan is to buy another chiller like this and connected it to the FDC right away.  
  
- Sean was interested in the progress with the FDC alignment. Lubomir: the procedure is first, to align all the elements withing the package: 8 parameters per cell or 48 per package. Three packages have been aligned already and it will take one more week to align the last one. It turned out that the procedure converges only if there's enough statistics for each iteration, at least a quoter of the total, that's why it takes time. The last step will be to align the packages between each other, but there are only three parameters per package, so it will work faster.
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- The 8 wire channels with no signals reported on the last meeting were fixed: the connector was not properly connected at the front of the TDC.  
  
- Today we did (together with Dave and Casey) a small modification in the spare package. We used the opportunity to look at the cathode: as seen from the picture above, there are no hints for corrosion in the place where the O-ring goes over the connector traces. The spare package was sitting in EEL126 for two years.   
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- Picture: no corrosion at all on one of the cathodes on the spare package.   
  
 
== Electronics ==
 
== Electronics ==
  
- Beni checked the fADC crates with pulser (Mike's code) and found ~10 bad channels in the FDC. 6 of them had some connector issues and were fixed by Chris and Nick, 4 are still bad (first log entry).
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- HV filters will come by the end of the month, so hopefully we will have a good data in April. Nick needs and will take from the Hall the only filter that is now installed on the CDC HV.
 
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- Lubomir looked at the data (first runs after the chiller was installed) and made a list of bad channels (second log entry linked above). There's nothing new or unexpected, these are 0.6% of the total channel number. Noticeably, there are 8 new bad wire channels sitting on one ASIC in the pre-amp. Fernando wanted to have a code, similar to the one for the fADCs, to check the TDCs with a pulser. Bryan has implemented already this feature in his libraries.  
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- Beni: one FDC crate (rocfdc9) is crushing from time to time, he suspects broken SD.
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== Engineering ==
  
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- Dave, Lubomir discussed with Bill possible replacement of the CO2 sensor pump. Bill contacted a company with long lasting pumps however they all work on flows > several liters per minute. We decided to go with a diaphragm pump that has ~1 year life with a variable flow (spec attached): we need 0.1 l/min for FDC and 0.1-0.5 l/min for the CDC. Fernando agreed to install one MPOD in a BCAL crate to vary the voltage of the pump.

Latest revision as of 03:38, 1 April 2015

March 19, 2015 FDC+CDC meeting

Connection

  1. Instructions for Bluejeans meeting connection
  2. FDC meeting ID: 290664653
  3. To join via a Web Browser, go to the page [1] https://bluejeans.com/290664653.

Agenda

  1. Gas issues
  2. CDC update (Beni, Mike)[5]
  3. FDC update
  4. Electronics: logbook entry 3325323, 3325070 (Fernando, Cody, Chris, Nick)
  5. Engineering (Dave)
  6. Other

Minutes

Participants: Naomi (CMU), Sean (NU), Fernando, Dave, Chris, Nick, Beni, Sergey, and Lubomir (JLab).

Gas issues

- Lubomir presented summary of the FDC gas gain measurements with 55Fe source: first plot shows charge distributions at different HV in the Hall, package 4. Second plot is a summary of all the measurements at 2200/-500V both in the Hall and in the EEL126 with the spare package, as a function of the atmospheric pressure. 1% change of the pressure results in 5-7% change of the gain, as expected from the literature. By some reasons the charge on the upper strips is bigger than on the down ones for both measurements in the EEL and in the Hall; needs further studies. Third plot shows the gain-HV dependence at fixed (+/- 0.2 kPa) atmospheric pressure from the measurements and also from Garfield simulations. Garfield predicts somewhat stronger dependence: Sergey explains it with space charge effects at higher gains when using 55Fe source. Assuming a mixture of 45/55 Ar/CO2 (plus 0.3% alcohol) in the Hall, Garfield predicts higher gains, all this relative to the standard gas mixture 40/60 in the EEL. A simple explanation might be a difference of the gas temperature in the Hall and in the EEL: 6 degC lower temperature in the Hall will explain it, or 1% (absolute) change of the CO2. Conclusion: generally the gain measurements in the EEL and in the Hall are in agreement with a change of the CO2 from 60% to 55% (+/-1%). Last plot shows previous gain measurements for four gas mixtures using different techniques.

- Beni continued changing different configurations in the gas mixing system trying to identify the source of the disagreement without success so far: the biggest change in the max drift time was 8% but was not repeatable.

CDC update

- Mike showed a plot with the positions of the noisy channels: most are at ~7 o'clock. The HV filter was installed on the channels at ~9 o'clock and this sector is indeed very clean.

FDC update

- The chiller is consuming a lot of Fluorinert. After 10 days of operation we had to refill it with ~1.5 galons (see photos attached). Need to sniff the connections and later possibly the chiller inside. As discussed with Eugene and Tim, the plan is to buy another chiller like this and connected it to the FDC right away.

- The 8 wire channels with no signals reported on the last meeting were fixed: the connector was not properly connected at the front of the TDC.

- Picture: no corrosion at all on one of the cathodes on the spare package.

Electronics

- HV filters will come by the end of the month, so hopefully we will have a good data in April. Nick needs and will take from the Hall the only filter that is now installed on the CDC HV.

Engineering

- Dave, Lubomir discussed with Bill possible replacement of the CO2 sensor pump. Bill contacted a company with long lasting pumps however they all work on flows > several liters per minute. We decided to go with a diaphragm pump that has ~1 year life with a variable flow (spec attached): we need 0.1 l/min for FDC and 0.1-0.5 l/min for the CDC. Fernando agreed to install one MPOD in a BCAL crate to vary the voltage of the pump.