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# Corrosion tests at MePhi [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/corrosion/mephi_results1.xlsx latest results] (Lubomir)
 
# Corrosion tests at MePhi [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/corrosion/mephi_results1.xlsx latest results] (Lubomir)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
 
# Engineering (Bill)
#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/procedures/D00000-01-03-P056.docx Tube bending and manifold assembly]
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#* [http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/detector/fdc/procedures/D00000-01-03-P056.docx Cooling tube bending and manifold assembly]
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
 
# Electronics (Chris, Nick)
# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb1.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
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# Tests at EEL126 [https://halldweb.jlab.org/elog-halld/FDC FDC E-log] (Beni)
 
# Other
 
# Other
 
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= Minutes =
 
= Minutes =
  
Participants: Bill, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.
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Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.
  
 
== Production ==
 
== Production ==
  
- Dave for the spare parts: some issues with tensioning mylar on type-2 cathode: bubbles appeared and mylar has to be replaced. Tina will come again this week(end?) to finish the cutting of all the foils needed for the spare cathodes. Casey and Dave will string the last wire frame. On Monday Chris will put the components on the second last wire frame.
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- Dave for the spare parts: wire frame #3 (old) was tested without HV caps (580/-50nA at 2100/-500V) and now Anatoly is soldering them. Last wire frame (#32) was strung by Casey and Dave, Casey is gluing the wires now, tomorrow will come soldering and tension measurements. Don't need to convert type-2 to type-1 cathode frame (mill the O-ring groove) we have enough; the one that was deformed was used and looks OK. No need for extra spacer rings, the ones on the full-scale prototype can be used (Bill). Tina will come over the weekend to work on the last cathodes. Expect to finish with the spare part production in March.
  
- Lubomir for package #2: despite replacing sense wire 37 on W010 (second cell), it showed a noise this time very close to the HV end (Down strip #15, Upper strip #3). On Monday we opened the package for a fourth time. During this operation, an O-ring with Apizon fell at the periphery of the top cell wire plane (W012) close to the signal side in the region of wire #76-89. Casey cleaned it with alcohol and later we checked this place with a source: no difference in the signals found. We put W010 on the stringing table and looked with the web-camera at the "noisy" place. There were some balls on the one of the field wires next to sense 37 and we cleaned it (applying some pressure with q-tips on both sides of the wire). We installed w012 in the second cell and put w010 on the top, just in case we have to open it again. This time the noise disappeared; all the channels that were re-installed were tested again and all are working fine. Next week we will continue with the ground installation.
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- Lubomir for package #2: completely tested, oxygen went down to 170ppm. Started installing the grounding, 75% done. It is now on the mounting table
 
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and we don't have extra strong-back (used in 126) to put it on a table, or we can't use the holding brackets to hang it on the rails. The holding brackets will be used to test the deformation of the installation cart. So, next week we will move it on a granite table so that we can start working on the spare package.
- Additional parts to build one spare package: we realized we can re-use two spacer rings from the full-scale prototype and don't have to order them ($1.6k). Bill will look at the drawings to confirm this. They don't have guage holes but can be drilled. Bill got a quotation for the two 35mm spacer rings (to test the helium drift chamber concept) at about the same $1.6k. We will submit one PR for all the parts.
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- Started testing some of the very old wire frames (W003 and W006) in a separate set-up with two Lexan sheets and a spacer ring. We need just one of them to be holding HV to have 6 spares.
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== Basis of Estimate for the FDC ==
 
== Basis of Estimate for the FDC ==
  
- New version of the BOE is linked above with the breakdown of the man-weeks. During the discussions Bill added for some activities the engineer-weeks.
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- New version of the BOE is linked above. Most of the discussions were after the meeting with Eugene and on the next day.  
  
 
== Corrosion test at MePhi ==
 
== Corrosion test at MePhi ==
  
- Already 10 days Viton and Viton+Apiezon samples are OK, while the EPDMs failed on the first day. Vlad wants to keep the test running till the two Viton+Apiezon samples die.
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- Already 18 days Viton and Viton+Apiezon samples are OK. Vlad mentioned that due to the condensation there is some water also directly in the cup with the samples, so the conditions are even more severe.  
  
 
== Engineering ==
 
== Engineering ==
  
- Bill is working on the procedure to cut the cooling tubes and install the manifolds there. He is considering using non-conductive tube connection at some places to avoid closed current loops. Some modifications of the cooling loops may be needed for cells 5 and 6.
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- Bill went step by step over the procedure (linked above) for bending/cutting the cooling tubes and installing the manifolds. Beni was concerned about the radiation hardness of the Tygon tubing that will be used for cooling. We expect to have 1kRad for 10 years and this is not a problem for the Tygon (Bill).
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- Test of the installation cart deformation: we don't need the survey people, will just get the tool from Jim to measure the distance between the rails.
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- 208V in 126 for the chiller will cost us $4.5k. At the same time Beni mentioned that there's 208V already and he's using it for one of the crates. He may need it also for another two crates when he loads them fully with electronics. Beni will check how much current is needed for that. Bill will check also what is the current needed for the chiller (it has breaker at 20A). Eugene insisted to consult also with Giles about the codes, if we can do it temporary by ourself.
  
- Bill showed more pictures (linked above) for the test of the cooling system. The best place to do the test is at 126; need some kind of water chiller.
 
 
 
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
 
== Tests at EEL126 ==
  
- On Tuesday we moved the fourth package from EEL to Blue Crab, took the strong-back and hubs, installed them the first package that we transported to EEL for testing. The gas is OK and after the meeting HV was set on all the package successfully.  
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- Beni tested all the strip and wire channels (entries 104 and 105 in the FDC E-log). All channels are fine except two strip without signal, but could be electronics or cable connection. One wire channel has lower efficiency and also needs to be checked. Eugene suggested to measure the wire efficiencies at different thresholds and HV. Beni has some problems with the strip efficiencies, but is working on that.
  
 
== Other ==
 
== Other ==
  
- Dave is setting a place at the ARC building to work on the gas system control using the Brooks flow controllers.
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- No meeting next week due to the collaboration meeting.
 
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Latest revision as of 01:13, 1 April 2015

February 14, 2013 FDC meeting

Agenda

  1. Production Construction Tracking (Dave)
  2. Basis of Estimate for the FDC activities (Lubomir, Bill, Dave)
  3. Corrosion tests at MePhi latest results (Lubomir)
  4. Engineering (Bill)
  5. Electronics (Chris, Nick)
  6. Tests at EEL126 FDC E-log (Beni)
  7. Other

Minutes

Participants: Eugene, Bill, Dave, Chris, Nick, Simon, Beni, and Lubomir.

Production

- Dave for the spare parts: wire frame #3 (old) was tested without HV caps (580/-50nA at 2100/-500V) and now Anatoly is soldering them. Last wire frame (#32) was strung by Casey and Dave, Casey is gluing the wires now, tomorrow will come soldering and tension measurements. Don't need to convert type-2 to type-1 cathode frame (mill the O-ring groove) we have enough; the one that was deformed was used and looks OK. No need for extra spacer rings, the ones on the full-scale prototype can be used (Bill). Tina will come over the weekend to work on the last cathodes. Expect to finish with the spare part production in March.

- Lubomir for package #2: completely tested, oxygen went down to 170ppm. Started installing the grounding, 75% done. It is now on the mounting table and we don't have extra strong-back (used in 126) to put it on a table, or we can't use the holding brackets to hang it on the rails. The holding brackets will be used to test the deformation of the installation cart. So, next week we will move it on a granite table so that we can start working on the spare package.

Basis of Estimate for the FDC

- New version of the BOE is linked above. Most of the discussions were after the meeting with Eugene and on the next day.

Corrosion test at MePhi

- Already 18 days Viton and Viton+Apiezon samples are OK. Vlad mentioned that due to the condensation there is some water also directly in the cup with the samples, so the conditions are even more severe.

Engineering

- Bill went step by step over the procedure (linked above) for bending/cutting the cooling tubes and installing the manifolds. Beni was concerned about the radiation hardness of the Tygon tubing that will be used for cooling. We expect to have 1kRad for 10 years and this is not a problem for the Tygon (Bill).

- Test of the installation cart deformation: we don't need the survey people, will just get the tool from Jim to measure the distance between the rails.

- 208V in 126 for the chiller will cost us $4.5k. At the same time Beni mentioned that there's 208V already and he's using it for one of the crates. He may need it also for another two crates when he loads them fully with electronics. Beni will check how much current is needed for that. Bill will check also what is the current needed for the chiller (it has breaker at 20A). Eugene insisted to consult also with Giles about the codes, if we can do it temporary by ourself.

Tests at EEL126

- Beni tested all the strip and wire channels (entries 104 and 105 in the FDC E-log). All channels are fine except two strip without signal, but could be electronics or cable connection. One wire channel has lower efficiency and also needs to be checked. Eugene suggested to measure the wire efficiencies at different thresholds and HV. Beni has some problems with the strip efficiencies, but is working on that.

Other

- No meeting next week due to the collaboration meeting.