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Talks can be deposited in the directory <code>/group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-1Q</code> on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-1Q/ .
 
Talks can be deposited in the directory <code>/group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-1Q</code> on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-1Q/ .
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=Minutes=
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TOF Meeting, 2/18
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JLab: Mark, Tim, Sascha, Simon, Tim, Beni, Elton, Yi
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FSU:
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Test says PMT is as advertised, better than intrinsic.
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Trip to SC to see Ralf
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• good trip, with sasha
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• goals
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∘ on design choices, compare and contrast
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∘ resolution not at goal
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∘ ESR beneficial or not
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• went over their procedures
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• time-walk corrections
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∘ sasha trying to fit all parameters at once
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∘ sc using iterative approach, not letting all parameters float
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∘ without time walk corrections, factor of two worse
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∘ Elton 1/sqrt(ph) not the right functional dependence
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∘ laser might have different spectral response
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• TDC's
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∘ resolution from electronics get something like 55 ps, the least significant bit
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∘ Ralf gets the same thing, lsb value, except 25 ps from his CAEN device
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∘ Why not go to CAEN TDC.
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∘ will get from Mark Kibilko
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∘ readout protocol should be OK
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• PMT choices
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∘ SC using 8 stage, not the 10 stage
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∘ 10 stage tube perhaps not available
 +
• ESR
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∘ improved light collection results from FSU
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∘ SC had poorer performance with ESR
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∘ material they were calling ESR, looks like white Tedlar, not specular
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∘ Ralf had mylar that he could not use and gave it to Paul
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• tour of lab
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∘ alignment devices
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∘ glueing tools, jigs
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• Contract
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∘ assembly and testing document
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Geometry
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• making the counters wider may lose light
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• mounting pmt directly on scint like SC attractive
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• has not finalized proposal yet
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• need to talk about it next time
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• outside diameter with mu metal 6 cm
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• sc using 6 cm x 6cm counters
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• current design with steel tube more than adequate
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schedule
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• tim shows one
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• pmt kind of thing JLab would buy
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• scint as well
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• others bought by FSU
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• contract has to be awarded PO goes out, 7 months from now
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mu metal shield will be tested
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rates for innermost paddles near the beam hole: how do we address that
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get drawing from tim on

Revision as of 12:02, 22 February 2011

Location, Time

Friday, February 18, 2011
2:00 pm EST
JLab: CEBAF Center, Room F326/7

Agenda

  1. Announcements
  2. Minutes from the last meeting
  3. Report from trip to U. of South Carolina: Paul
  4. Prototype Status
  5. Contract Status
  6. TOF Schedule
  7. Meeting time OK?

Communication

Videoconference

  1. ESNet: 8542553
  2. EVO: EVO site

Telephone

  1. dial:
  2. enter access code followed by the # sign: 3421244#

Slides

Talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2011-1Q on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2011-1Q/ .

Minutes

TOF Meeting, 2/18

JLab: Mark, Tim, Sascha, Simon, Tim, Beni, Elton, Yi FSU:

Test says PMT is as advertised, better than intrinsic.

Trip to SC to see Ralf

• good trip, with sasha • goals ∘ on design choices, compare and contrast ∘ resolution not at goal ∘ ESR beneficial or not • went over their procedures • time-walk corrections ∘ sasha trying to fit all parameters at once ∘ sc using iterative approach, not letting all parameters float ∘ without time walk corrections, factor of two worse ∘ Elton 1/sqrt(ph) not the right functional dependence ∘ laser might have different spectral response • TDC's ∘ resolution from electronics get something like 55 ps, the least significant bit ∘ Ralf gets the same thing, lsb value, except 25 ps from his CAEN device ∘ Why not go to CAEN TDC. ∘ will get from Mark Kibilko ∘ readout protocol should be OK • PMT choices ∘ SC using 8 stage, not the 10 stage ∘ 10 stage tube perhaps not available • ESR ∘ improved light collection results from FSU ∘ SC had poorer performance with ESR ∘ material they were calling ESR, looks like white Tedlar, not specular ∘ Ralf had mylar that he could not use and gave it to Paul • tour of lab ∘ alignment devices ∘ glueing tools, jigs • Contract ∘ assembly and testing document

Geometry

• making the counters wider may lose light • mounting pmt directly on scint like SC attractive • has not finalized proposal yet • need to talk about it next time • outside diameter with mu metal 6 cm • sc using 6 cm x 6cm counters • current design with steel tube more than adequate


schedule • tim shows one • pmt kind of thing JLab would buy • scint as well • others bought by FSU • contract has to be awarded PO goes out, 7 months from now


mu metal shield will be tested

rates for innermost paddles near the beam hole: how do we address that



get drawing from tim on