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* Review minutes from last meeting https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/April_09,_2024_KLONG_CPS_Design_Meeting
 
* Review minutes from last meeting https://halldweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/April_09,_2024_KLONG_CPS_Design_Meeting
 
* Review new basic 3D model  
 
* Review new basic 3D model  
** Combined support for magnet and absorber
 
 
** Copper Absorber translatable model to Fluka?
 
** Copper Absorber translatable model to Fluka?
 
** New radiation levels? Pavel
 
** New radiation levels? Pavel
 
** Layout of magnet and components (Stephanie/Keith)
 
** Layout of magnet and components (Stephanie/Keith)
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*** Combined support for magnet and absorber
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*** possible moving plan https://www.aerogo.com/products/air-caster-rigging-system/
 
* Power supply status - On order, due March 2025
 
* Power supply status - On order, due March 2025
 
* Magnet update (Josh/Stephanie)  
 
* Magnet update (Josh/Stephanie)  
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* Copper cooling update - [[media:CPS Absorber cooling 8 offset holes.pdf]] [[media:CPS Absorber cooling 8 offset holes_2.pdf]]
 
* Copper cooling update - [[media:CPS Absorber cooling 8 offset holes.pdf]] [[media:CPS Absorber cooling 8 offset holes_2.pdf]]
 
** Perform Brazing test
 
** Perform Brazing test
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** Lead brick painting should be out for bid this week
 
* DeGauss test summer 2024
 
* DeGauss test summer 2024
  
 
== Minutes ==
 
== Minutes ==
* Discussed minutes from last meeting
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* Reviewed minutes from last meeting
* Looked at positioning of components in Z. Stephanie has updated the model to the latest.
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* Translation from NX to Fluka were largely unsuccessful
* Pavel looked at radiation after experiment and it is decided we can remove the poly shielding 1 week after the end of beam in order to move the assy closer to the north wall
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* Need to give x, y and z coordinates of shielding around the absorber to Pavel to rerun Fluka model (Keith H.)
* Discussed Magnet design
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* Get Pavel magnet dimensions to rerun Fluka (Stephanie)
** High rad resistant resin (CTD403) has hazardous characteristics with cyanide. It may be better (and cheaper) to use a resin such as CTD101K which is much cheaper but still radiation hard (10^5 grey).
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* Magnet will be supported on same support as absorber/shielding
** Give Pavel the current magnet model to run in Fluka to determine the needed radiation levels
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* Discussed use of air casters to move the CPS assy around during installation and moving after commissioning
** Magnet positioned 2cm below beam center
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** About $35K to procure system
* Discussed the portion of the CPS that will be moved north after experiment
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** It will give us much ore flexibility during assembly
** May be a good idea to move the magnet with the absorber/shielding assembly
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** Need to rent a portable compressor (200 SCFM) with 2" air lines
** Supporting magnet from the absorber assy support may be useful
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** seemed to be acceptable plan, we will pursue this further
** Steel shielding over magnet may be attached (not required) and moved with magnet to keep radiation levels down
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** Concerns with radioactive dust (contamination)
* Radiator design
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** Get with ES&H/RADCON to discuss mitigations
** may be a long shaft to bring motor outside shielding
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** Will see if anyone else at the lab has used this or owns a system - no go
** may be a rack and pinion or worm gear type of set up
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* Discussed Project Gant chart being developed for the entire KLONG project -
** thick target, thin target and empty space needed
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** will send a preliminary out soon (Tim)
** target will be in air
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** Will include schedule and manpower needs
* Vacuum window downstream of diagnostic girder may be 100um aluminum (2.5 cm diameter)
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** Keith H. will most likely have less time in the near future to work on KLONG
* Vacuum window on US end of permanent magnet may be Kapton if needed
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* Brazing test planned for absorber
* Pavel requests a nitrogen purge in copper absorber area
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** 8" Z length 1/2 of the absorber
* Copper absorber
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** three 3/8" supply and return per half
** Hovanes shows 52.9KW absorbed from Pavel model 78
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** tubes brazed into section with no water exposed joints inside shielding
** Tim's ANSYS model shows 51.14KW. Maybe ok sine the 8 1/2" water holes are in the model
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* Magnet
** Eugene was concerned with brazed joints for water cooling
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** Still need to determine if less expensive resin can be used
** After More discussion after the meeting, we will prsue brazing 3/8 inch tube into the absorber
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** All water exposed joints will be outside shielding
*** Keith will work with JLAB vacuum brazing to come up with a prototype model to test
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* Josh came up with a possible way to transfer models to Fluka from ANSYS. He will get a model to Pavel to see if this works
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* The lead bricks are here from SLAC. A PR is written to get them painted
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==

Latest revision as of 13:13, 25 April 2024

Meeting Time and Place

Tuesday, April 23, 2024, 1:15pm Hall D Counting House

  • Invited - Hovanes Egiyan, Stephanie Worthington, Keith Harding, Pavel Degtiarenko, Tim Whitlatch, Eugene Chudakov, Josh Ballard

Agenda

Minutes

  • Reviewed minutes from last meeting
  • Translation from NX to Fluka were largely unsuccessful
  • Need to give x, y and z coordinates of shielding around the absorber to Pavel to rerun Fluka model (Keith H.)
  • Get Pavel magnet dimensions to rerun Fluka (Stephanie)
  • Magnet will be supported on same support as absorber/shielding
  • Discussed use of air casters to move the CPS assy around during installation and moving after commissioning
    • About $35K to procure system
    • It will give us much ore flexibility during assembly
    • Need to rent a portable compressor (200 SCFM) with 2" air lines
    • seemed to be acceptable plan, we will pursue this further
    • Concerns with radioactive dust (contamination)
    • Get with ES&H/RADCON to discuss mitigations
    • Will see if anyone else at the lab has used this or owns a system - no go
  • Discussed Project Gant chart being developed for the entire KLONG project -
    • will send a preliminary out soon (Tim)
    • Will include schedule and manpower needs
    • Keith H. will most likely have less time in the near future to work on KLONG
  • Brazing test planned for absorber
    • 8" Z length 1/2 of the absorber
    • three 3/8" supply and return per half
    • tubes brazed into section with no water exposed joints inside shielding
  • Magnet
    • Still need to determine if less expensive resin can be used
    • All water exposed joints will be outside shielding

Action Items