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=Minutes=
 
=Minutes=
  
Target Meeting, 12/21
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Present:
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* '''JLab''': Hovanes Egiyan, Mark Ito (chair), Chris Keith, Yi Qiang, Tim Whitlatch, Elliott Wolin
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* '''UMass''': Rory Miskimen
  
20-30W at 24 K hydrogen
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==Refrigerator Capacity==
use 5 W in Hall B
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hallB heater 2-3 W
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typical 19 K, 3 psi over atmosphere, supercooled for no bubbles
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1.5 W at 4 K for helium
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helium 3 require more power
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Chris talked to the manufacturer of the pulse tube refrigerator we are considering and was told that the most common use of the unit was for helium liquefaction, so operation of a <sup>4</sup>He target would not be a problem. It should provide 1.5 W at 4 K. At liquid hydrogen temperatures is should be able to provide 20 to 30 W.
  
starting this spring Chris will put some effort
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Hovanes mentioned that for photon running in Hall B with hydrogen the target uses about 5 W. A heater is used to regulate the temperature (and thus prevent the hydrogen from freezing). A few Watts needs to be provided typically.
  
gas system
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Chris also noted that in Halls A and C they typically run hydrogen at 19 K, at about 3 psi over atmospheric pressure, supercooled to avoid bubbles.
refrigerator system
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heat transfer
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Helium-3 requires more power and is not in the plan at present.
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==Work Plan==
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Chris plans to start work on our target system this Spring. He and Tim have identified some of the major work areas:
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* gas system
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* refrigerator system
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* heat transfer system
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Right now he is swamped with polarized target work for Hall A.
  
 
Chris: contact physicist to be able to operate target without adult supervision
 
Chris: contact physicist to be able to operate target without adult supervision
  
Hovanes: controls
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==Controls==
  
right now swamped with polarized target for hall a
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Hovanes brought up the issue of controls.
  
putting things into change request, including cost estimate
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* Chris has starting looking at the flow diagrams for the Saclay target system in Hall B. He thinks things can probably can be simpler.
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* In Halls A and C the dependence of externally controlled valves has been minimized; mechanical controls are used whenever possible. We should probably do the same for Hall D.
  
starting with flow for saclay target; probably can be simpler
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==Schedule==
  
in halls a and c minimize automated valves
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Mark flashed the [???|target costs and schedule] that is in the current baseline. As part of the ETC change request Tim is updating this section (WBS 1.5.5.2) adding some new items and updating cost estimates and starting dates. For example, the purchase of a refrigerator is not in the current baseline. Right now both he and Chris do feel we are in any sort of schedule trouble.
  
rely on mechanical controls
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==Next Meeting==
  
re-work schedule and costs, part of ETC
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We decided to meet again in 4 weeks. Mark will schedule a meeting.

Revision as of 17:56, 21 December 2010

Location, Time

Tuesday, December 21, 2010
1:30 pm EST
JLab: CEBAF Center, Room F326

Agenda

  1. Review minutes from previous meeting: all
  2. Refrigerator plans: Chris, Tim
  3. Schedule review: all
  4. MOU Status: Mark

Communication

Conference Group, US: 800-377-8846, Canada: 888-276-7715, International: 302-709-8424
   participant code: 77438230
ESNet: 8542553
EVO: direct meeting link, phone bridge ID: 269 1668
Slides: talks can be deposited in the directory /group/halld/www/halldweb1/html/talks/2010-12 on the JLab CUE. This directory is accessible from the web at https://halldweb1.jlab.org/talks/2010-12/ .

Minutes

Present:

  • JLab: Hovanes Egiyan, Mark Ito (chair), Chris Keith, Yi Qiang, Tim Whitlatch, Elliott Wolin
  • UMass: Rory Miskimen

Refrigerator Capacity

Chris talked to the manufacturer of the pulse tube refrigerator we are considering and was told that the most common use of the unit was for helium liquefaction, so operation of a 4He target would not be a problem. It should provide 1.5 W at 4 K. At liquid hydrogen temperatures is should be able to provide 20 to 30 W.

Hovanes mentioned that for photon running in Hall B with hydrogen the target uses about 5 W. A heater is used to regulate the temperature (and thus prevent the hydrogen from freezing). A few Watts needs to be provided typically.

Chris also noted that in Halls A and C they typically run hydrogen at 19 K, at about 3 psi over atmospheric pressure, supercooled to avoid bubbles.

Helium-3 requires more power and is not in the plan at present.

Work Plan

Chris plans to start work on our target system this Spring. He and Tim have identified some of the major work areas:

  • gas system
  • refrigerator system
  • heat transfer system

Right now he is swamped with polarized target work for Hall A.

Chris: contact physicist to be able to operate target without adult supervision

Controls

Hovanes brought up the issue of controls.

  • Chris has starting looking at the flow diagrams for the Saclay target system in Hall B. He thinks things can probably can be simpler.
  • In Halls A and C the dependence of externally controlled valves has been minimized; mechanical controls are used whenever possible. We should probably do the same for Hall D.

Schedule

Mark flashed the [???|target costs and schedule] that is in the current baseline. As part of the ETC change request Tim is updating this section (WBS 1.5.5.2) adding some new items and updating cost estimates and starting dates. For example, the purchase of a refrigerator is not in the current baseline. Right now both he and Chris do feel we are in any sort of schedule trouble.

Next Meeting

We decided to meet again in 4 weeks. Mark will schedule a meeting.